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Right now our defense is looking really nice. Allen/McCarron is the best depth chart in decades.  And Shady is Shady.  I like the Ray Ray pick and think he will be a factor at WR and most definitely as a returner.  But Benjamin-Zay-Ray Ray-Kerley is lacking a true #1.  Dion-Miller-Groy-Vlad-Mills is scary though.  My guess is we add a oline starter after roster cut downs and post June 1.  What is the plan at oline and WR?  Who starts?

 

There is some depth on this team now.  And we got a lot younger.  The future is bright for the Bills.  The Sabres winning the lottery just might be the confirmation that Buffalo is on the up and up!

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I think you are underestimating Teller on the OL, he’s got a really good shot of starting, he was easily a top 50 pick in 2017. The Bills got a steal because a little bit of a down year, although he was still top 10 in both pass and run production.

 

Im hoping it’s:

 

Dawkins-Teller-Groy/Bodine-Miller-McDermott

 

This line isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

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13 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I think you are underestimating Teller on the OL, he’s got a really good shot of starting, he was easily a top 50 pick in 2017. The Bills got a steal because a little bit of a down year, although he was still top 10 in both pass and run production.

 

Im hoping it’s:

 

Dawkins-Teller-Groy/Bodine-Miller-McDermott

 

This line isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

 

Im really hoping Miller bounces back In a more power based scheme. It sounds like the issues Teller had last year were related to scheme and that he is a bully, so a more power base will help him as well.

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9 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Im really hoping Miller bounces back In a more power based scheme. It sounds like the issues Teller had last year were related to scheme and that he is a bully, so a more power base will help him as well.

 

Yea and I guess he(Teller) had a bit of a falling out with the staff. The guy is a beast. 

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55 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I think you are underestimating Teller on the OL, he’s got a really good shot of starting, he was easily a top 50 pick in 2017. The Bills got a steal because a little bit of a down year, although he was still top 10 in both pass and run production.

 

Im hoping it’s:

 

Dawkins-Teller-Groy/Bodine-Miller-McDermott

 

This line isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

As long as Ducasse and Mills aren't involved AJ/Allen and McCoy have a chance against a decent front 7.

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1 minute ago, Bills Fan of Maryland said:

As long as Ducasse and Mills aren't involved AJ/Allen and McCoy have a chance against a decent front 7.

 

My gosh, I hope they get pushed to the bench. Although as much as it pains me to say, Ducasse wasn’t that bad the second half of the season ??‍♂️

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And as much as I hate to say it - McDermott keeps identifying Mills as a leader.  Save San Diego, I thought he was better.  Perhaps he can become adequate?  And if not, maybe McDermott can take his job.  Dawkins - Teller/Groy - Bodine-Groy - Miller - Mills/McDermott does not strike me as horrific.  How is the FA they signed, Newhouse I think is his name?  Is he a player that could give Mills competition?

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3 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

I think you are underestimating Teller on the OL, he’s got a really good shot of starting, he was easily a top 50 pick in 2017. The Bills got a steal because a little bit of a down year, although he was still top 10 in both pass and run production.

 

Im hoping it’s:

 

Dawkins-Teller-Groy/Bodine-Miller-McDermott

 

This line isn’t nearly as bad as people think.

i will also be interested to see if miller can bounce back. and i really like the teller pick. the knock is that for whatever reason, he was not himself this year. if anyone can reach him, i billieve it is McDermott...the coach. McDermott the ot intrigues me because he is friggin' uuuuuuge!

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4 hours ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

My gosh, I hope they get pushed to the bench. Although as much as it pains me to say, Ducasse wasn’t that bad the second half of the season ??‍♂️

Why would a player getting/playing better make it painful to say?  That's a positive thing

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Why is receiver sooooo worried about? 

Benjamin may have injury issues but he’s a legit #1 when healthy. Has anyone ever watched Carolina? And how their teams are built..?

pound the rock pound the rock.. Benjamin was a great receiver there when he was on the field and Greg Olsen got tons of targets every game. 

We are a running team, plain and simple.

that could change in the future if AJ or Allen show they can run a high octane passing attack. But we are a ball control clock control run team who plays punishing defense. 

We don’t need legit top tier receivers cause we won’t be throwing 40 times a game. 

If/when their strategy works you’re talking 20-25 passes a game. Benjamin Clay shady O’Leary will be handling a lot of those targets. 

Bring in Dez? Marlin? For what? Decoy? Dez wants 20 targets for himself a game lol he would freak out here “blocking” all game and getting 2 targets. 

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2 minutes ago, Magnum Force said:

Anyone like the idea of Dez or Eric Decker?  I am not sure if Dez is a McDermott type of guy but he would be a nice addition if he was willing to come here.

 

Dez does not strike me as a McD kinda guy. And hes an average receiver at this point. Bad combo. 

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Oline is my biggest concern.  If you watch Josh Allen at the senior bowl, where he performed really well, he mostly had a clean pocket.  I hope that by the time he is starting we have an oline that can give him a chance to do what he does best.

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On 4/30/2018 at 1:05 AM, Rc2catch said:

Why is receiver sooooo worried about? 

Benjamin may have injury issues but he’s a legit #1 when healthy. Has anyone ever watched Carolina? And how their teams are built..?

pound the rock pound the rock.. Benjamin was a great receiver there when he was on the field and Greg Olsen got tons of targets every game. 

We are a running team, plain and simple.

that could change in the future if AJ or Allen show they can run a high octane passing attack. But we are a ball control clock control run team who plays punishing defense. 

We don’t need legit top tier receivers cause we won’t be throwing 40 times a game. 

If/when their strategy works you’re talking 20-25 passes a game. Benjamin Clay shady O’Leary will be handling a lot of those targets. 

Bring in Dez? Marlin? For what? Decoy? Dez wants 20 targets for himself a game lol he would freak out here “blocking” all game and getting 2 targets. 

 

A young QB's best friends are a stout OL and a stout running game

But when he does throw, his next best friend are at least 2 legit top tier receivers who can gain separation and haul in those errant throws.

 

What gave you the notion that only matters if you throw 40 times a game?

 

1 hour ago, McNubbins said:

Oline is my biggest concern.  If you watch Josh Allen at the senior bowl, where he performed really well, he mostly had a clean pocket.  I hope that by the time he is starting we have an oline that can give him a chance to do what he does best.

 

Agreed.  Some of our posters here think the O Line is not as bad as I think.  I hope they're right.

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On 4/29/2018 at 3:45 PM, MarlinTheMagician said:

And as much as I hate to say it - McDermott keeps identifying Mills as a leader.  Save San Diego, I thought he was better.  Perhaps he can become adequate?  And if not, maybe McDermott can take his job.  Dawkins - Teller/Groy - Bodine-Groy - Miller - Mills/McDermott does not strike me as horrific.  How is the FA they signed, Newhouse I think is his name?  Is he a player that could give Mills competition?

Fwiw Newhouse and Bodine graded on Pff as two of the worst linemen available in fa. 

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