Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, 4thandGoal said: only thing stupid is people creating new profiles to protest the pic .. people starting new threads when the topic is in 10-15 other threads .. people talking **** how this pick sucks without giving him a chance... It's a message board. It where fans go to vent. I am giving Allen a clean start but people don't have to turn in their fan card if they criticize the pick, that is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Thurmanator 12074 said: would you like us to pitch in and buy you a drum ?. If we do, can you post youtube videos every week while your watch the Arizona Cardinals & Josh Rosen play every week. Just wondering if you will in fact follow through. Maybe 2 bills drive fourm can pin your drum post. That way can keep track of your drumming. I love your passion for Rosen you coukd also post your drumming posts on Rosen’s twitter feed too. I'm not going to follow Rosen per se, but I will from time to time remind everyone why the Bills still suck and the Cards don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: We would not have to go through the next 3 years of watching an inevitable trainwreck bust at the QB position, AGAIN, if Pegula knew how to hire a front office. The "see how it works out" crowd is all we have been doing as a fan base for the last ~23 years. No more of this crap please. Let me translate this for those who don't speak whiner: I didn't get what I want so I am going to throw a non-stop, non-sensical tantrum until my adderall wears off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I'm not going to follow Rosen per se, but I will from time to time remind everyone why the Bills still suck and the Cards don't. So you are not really a Rosen fan, your just hear to Twitch with a B. Do you even like the Bills ? Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Mickey said: Let me translate this for those who don't speak whiner: I didn't get what I want so I am going to throw a non-stop, non-sensical tantrum until my adderall wears off. I'd like the Bills to be a good team, after many decades of ****. How bout you? If that's what you really want, you'd have a problem with this pick as well. Rosen was right there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm willing to give Beane the benefit of the doubt that someday Allen will be the QB that Rosen already is, however unlikely that may be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, starrymessenger said: I'm willing to give Beane the benefit of the doubt that someday Allen will be the QB that Rosen already is, however unlikely that may be. We really have no choice other than to hope for the best as fans of the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: So you are not really a Rosen fan, your just hear to B word. I'm not a fan of individual players, I'm a fan of the Bills. The Bills have sucked for a very long time, now the odds are very good they will suck for 3 more years. Huge bummer. Edited April 27, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I'd like the Bills to be a good team, after many decades of ****. How bout you? If that's what you really want, you'd have a problem with this pick as well. Rosen was right there... Where was he. Bills had no intention of drafting him. Bills traded up to get their QB. Now it’s time to see how it works out. Year one with this regime and they made the playoffs. That’s pretty good in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Trust The Process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) Whitner and Nagata didn’t even play the same position. Who cares what a different regime did 20yrs ago? This new regime, which has made a Super Bowl, and made the playoffs their first yr with the Bills, had had their pick of Rosen or Allen. And they made their choice. How people get butt hurt about it to this degree is beyond me. It’s not like they took a Corner instead of either Allen or Rosen. Toothpick Rosen is nothing to get this upset about. My wife has wider shoulders than that guy. Edited April 27, 2018 by bobobonators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Just curious, how were those great trades? Our wrs sucked last year and throwing deep to Sammy was what Tyrod did best. I’d argue we might have beat Jacksonville with Sammy. And our secondary was the best part of the team, but we traded a starting cb on a SB winner for Jordan Matthews. That’s awful. I think the larger point point is you don’t have to act like NFL decision makers always know better than the fans. Those are good examples of the fans being right. Trust me, I was the biggest homer alive then, so I defend those picks. IMO, this feels like those situations as well. time will tell but it’s ok for some (almost the majority) of Bills fans to be upset. This was one of the most important picks in Bills’ history. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about this. But for such a conservative coach/ team, this was insanely risky. I'm no longer upset and have decided to just roll with it. My approach going forward is to treat Allen as an interesting experiment given the very real huge upside. I'm gonna try and make it fun for myself regardless of the outcome. Maybe he'll be great; who really knows. Edited April 27, 2018 by dave mcbride 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I gotta say this, even though Allen wouldn't have been my pick... I think it's funny that some posters think their couple hours of watching highlights combined with reading some media reports make them better judges of QB talent than the collective intelligence of Beane and his entire scouting department combined with their hundreds of hours of due diligence. Part of the fun of being a fan is second-guessing coaches and GMs. But let's not pretend we actually know more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: when the Bills drafted Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo. The fans made the right call in those cases over the Bills' Front Office. The arrogance of starting a thread to tell everyone how "you" feel is amazing. Go suck on your baby bottle and root for another team then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Skins Malone said: Im not saying Allen will workout...only time will tell. But maybe there is a reason why Rosen was the QB that fell. Rosen fell over injury concerns. Nobody wants to bank a franchise on another Bradford. There is a saying around the league that guys who are injured stay injured. It's a trend with them. They never seem to buck it. Maybe they stay healthy in spurts (2-3 years tops) and maybe that's what a team wants, a spurt of greatness to make a run with their present roster. But I think the feeling is that the Bills wanted a long-term solution and stability under center. Develop the guy with the highest ceiling (everyone agrees that's Allen) and least amount of off field problems (once again-Allen) He was actually 4 on my list and I was angry when I heard his name called, but a few of my friends on the West Coast texted to congratulate us on a great pick. Those who saw Allen said he's going to be Big Ben for us. I hope they are right. Edited April 27, 2018 by BillsRdue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: I think the biggest difference between those picks and the Allen pick is no one had maybin over orakpo or whitner over ngata in player rankings. A decent number of scouting/mock drafts had Allen as a higher rates qb Mayock - who I consider one of the better draft gurus - wrote this in his mock: Dude is 6-foot-5, 237 pounds. He's the same size as Carson Wentz with bigger arm talent and he's a better athlete. Out of maybe any player in this draft, his upside might be the highest. I don't think he's ready Day 1, but if he can get over some hurdles, he's going to be special. The rub is the "if." But every college QB has hurdles to overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: The arrogance of starting a thread to tell everyone how "you" feel is amazing. Go suck on your baby bottle and root for another team then. That's what we do here. You don't get to tell me what to post or what team to root for. Now that is arrogance in addition to your usual stupidity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That's what we do here. You don't get to tell me what to post or what team to root for. Now that is arrogance in addition to your usual stupidity. Waaaaaaaaa. They didn't pick who I wanted. Waaaaaaaaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard bills fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I gotta say this, even though Allen wouldn't have been my pick... I think it's funny that some posters think their couple hours of watching highlights combined with reading some media reports make them better judges of QB talent than the collective intelligence of Beane and his entire scouting department combined with their hundreds of hours of due diligence. Part of the fun of being a fan is second-guessing coaches and GMs. But let's not pretend we actually know more. Exactly. I wanted Rosen but in no way am I putting my armchair experience with Beane and Mcd's experience and work they put into this. After thinking about it overnight and listening to Charlie Weis on nfl radio this morning I do think Allen is a good fit for Buffalo in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, die hard bills fan said: Exactly. I wanted Rosen but in no way am I putting my armchair experience with Beane and Mcd's experience and work they put into this. After thinking about it overnight and listening to Charlie Weis on nfl radio this morning I do think Allen is a good fit for Buffalo in the long run. That approach means every GM and coach in the NFL should not be critiqued for the moves they make solely because of the positions they hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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