BuffaloRush Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, WideRightRevenge said: Both surely were polarizing, but not to the extent of the 5 names Iisted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 20 hours ago, MTBill said: I agree with all these - even though some were before my time - those debates still rage in old timers. I almost listed Kelly in my list over Tyrod. I'd rather talk about players we loved most, to be fair. ‘To be ‘Fair’?? Your choices represent those of a 12 year old, ‘to be fair’. 8 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: decent list though I’d argue with the order a bit. Lamonica and Saban probably aren’t as relevant in 2018 WTF does relevant have to do with this thread? If you’re going to argue against everybody who disagrees with your naive thread, then keep it in the garage with your like-minded buddies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 My takes -as it pertains to the Buffalo Bills: #5 Gilchrest. Shouldn’t be on the Wall, though he brought us 1championship. #4 Bruce Smith. ‘I/Me/Mine’ guy. HOFer who created racial discord, community embarrassment, Suspended for drugs -but helped 4 teams reach SB. #3 Flutie/Johnson. I’m still a Johnson man #2 Lamonica/Kemp trade. We went south, Raiders went Gold. #1 Hands Down, Ralph Wilson. In a word, stingy. Philanthropist & brought & kept the Bills in Buffalo. Ran off Saban 2x, Knox, Polian. Wouldn’t pay great players, while hiring his friends Harvey Johnson and Stew Barber 2x each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: My takes -as it pertains to the Buffalo Bills: #5 Gilchrest. Shouldn’t be on the Wall, though he brought us 1championship. #4 Bruce Smith. ‘I/Me/Mine’ guy. HOFer who created racial discord, community embarrassment, Suspended for drugs -but helped 4 teams reach SB. #3 Flutie/Johnson. I’m still a Johnson man #2 Lamonica/Kemp trade. We went south, Raiders went Gold. #1 Hands Down, Ralph Wilson. In a word, stingy. Philanthropist & brought & kept the Bills in Buffalo. Ran off Saban 2x, Knox, Polian. Wouldn’t pay great players, while hiring his friends Harvey Johnson and Stew Barber 2x each. Not bad, but like I said before I don’t think Lamonica or Cookie are as polarizing as the 5 I listed earlier. But Ralph - hell yes! I don’t think Bruce is very polarizing. Maybe at one time he was, but most fans love Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 19 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: decent list though I’d argue with the order a bit. Lamonica and Saban probably aren’t as relevant in 2018 The thread said in Bills history and I started following the team in 1963, so these guys a all relevant to me. Saban was a huge tumult in the day. Good thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 23 hours ago, The Jokeman said: Really? Flutie's poor play in the last 7 or so games didn't lead to his benching? We're arguing about it 18 years later and that's why Flutie belongs at #1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We're arguing about it 18 years later and that's why Flutie belongs at #1. Good point. Perhaps I underrated him a bit. However I feel that people are also underrating the polarizing nature of Doug Whaley Edited April 5, 2018 by BuffaloRush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 If this year's Chosen One ends up being another EJ, you may have a clear-cut winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Good point. Perhaps I underrated him a bit. However I feel that people are also underrating the polarizing nature of Doug Whaley I might be biased as after we signed him me and a friend created a Flutie Haters website. As at the time we didn't have RJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, BuffaloRush said: Good point. Perhaps I underrated him a bit. However I feel that people are also underrating the polarizing nature of Doug Whaley Johnson also accused Flutie of being the anonymous source in the SI article (back when the magazine was kind of a big deal) that criticized his leadership qualities in the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 CJ Spiller...underutilized OJ Simpson...under investigation Willis McGahee...under drafted Marshawn Lynch...misunderstood Ronnie Harmon... Carwell Gardner...personally, I think Bryan Cox got a bad rep because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileena Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 This thread is ridiculous. Most of the players are recent. The OP is not too bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 hours ago, mileena said: This thread is ridiculous. Most of the players are recent. The OP is not too bright. If you actually read my posts, I said these are the most polarizing players to the fan base in 2018. Obviously the more recent players are more topical than guys who played during the 1970’s. Seems like someone else is also not too bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 10:18 AM, BuffaloRush said: I was around but no the boards. It very well could be because that was 20 years ago and the other 4 are more topical. But in 2018, I feel that Bills fans feel way more passionately about Doug Whaley than they do about Flutie Also an overwhelming majority of members here said that Flutie was the best QB since Kelly. I don’t feel he’s anywhere near as polarizing as any of the other 4 The Flutie - Johnson debate was brutal. Much much worse than anything Whaley did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: The Flutie - Johnson debate was brutal. Much much worse than anything Whaley did. Not so sure about that. There are many Bills fans who are very much for or against Doug Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 44 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: The Flutie - Johnson debate was brutal. Much much worse than anything Whaley did. Yep, if the net was as big at that point as it is today this board would have been flooded with "I'm quitting this team" threads. And the drama would have been far more intense than what it was over Whaley or Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloRush said: If you actually read my posts, I said these are the most polarizing players to the fan base in 2018. Obviously the more recent players are more topical than guys who played during the 1970’s. Seems like someone else is also not too bright If I read the title, it says in franchise history. This means that during the time of their tenure in Buffalo, they were polarizing or afterwards there is reasonable debate about them. For me in no particular order, Kelly- Great QB, who didn't want to be here, drank like a fish, and beat women. OJ- during career had one eye always on Hollywood, post career had one hand one on the knife. Ralph- because he was cheap. RJ/Flutie- the debate lingered for a long time, one QB aged, the other just sucked Tyrod- guy leads team to playoffs first time in almost 20 years, and is still traded to Cleveland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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