Tiberius Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Cowardly LaPutz chimes in 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Particularly the Church of Clinton. You leave Saint Hillary out of this! 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Try not liking blisteringly dumb posts and I won't have to be one. He regurgitated a 500 year old argument and passed it off as his own. That you don't have the basis in history or philosophy to have realized that before you liked it is on you. Poor little Dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Is Full of Racism Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: Cowardly LaPutz chimes in You leave Saint Hillary out of this! hilary is your god lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, m_w_hunter said: hilary is your god lol Government is his God. Historically that works out great for the feeble minded like Tibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, m_w_hunter said: hilary is your god lol What sock puppet are you? You're too big an idiot to be unique. Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Government is his God. Hillary is his government. #Resistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPP Is Full of Racism Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: What sock puppet are you? You're too big an idiot to be unique. Hillary is his government. #Resistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, sherpa said: Kindly don't misapply the word "Christian," with the pope. The pope is a Catholic thing, so whatever he says has little or no interest among other Christian faiths. Further, you characterization of "God" in the Old and New Testaments is incorrect. God is God. The Bible is about covenants mad by the same God. The Old Testament is a story about a nation, and the covenant made with them to establish the kingdom of God on earth. They failed, and killed him. The New Testament is a story about an individual, and the covenant to include all who believe. I wouldn't worry about what he says anyway - you can tell he cut & pasted that by the proper spelling and punctuation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Government is his God. Historically that works out great for the feeble minded like Tibs. Government isn't god but it's a really good thing. Governments have reduced the amount of violence a thousand fold and made life easier, more comfortable and prosperous. So "in god we trust" maybe, but please if someone violates your freedom or life or property, who you going to call, a church or the government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Thanks for backing up my point, though I think you are too dumb to realize it. Yes, Christianity did go through a big change there 500 years ago to catch up with Renaissance thought and the more capitalistic society emerging at the time. And yes, in the late 20th century religion continued to evolve as it will keep doing. Thanks again ding bat! You are clearly clueless. The Reformation had nothing to do with "catching up with the Renaissance, and the more capitalistic society emerging at the time." Absolutely nothing. It was about an individual who was a faithful fan of the pope and the Roman Catholic church, and sought rapprochement, getting sick of Catholic officials selling indulgences to raise money for the construction of St. Peter's among other things. They wouldn't relent from the fundraising, and off we go. Nothing to do with emerging capitalism or the renaissance. Do you just dream this stuff up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Freedom and free choice seem to be bad for church attendance And the democratic party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Do you just dream this stuff up? He does it to make people crazy. Put him on ignore and save yourself the agita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 where's your Messiah now? where's your Clinton now? 8 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: He does it to make people crazy. Put him on ignore and save yourself the agita. I have 7 of them on ignore, and getting their trash when they are quoted is painful but that eliminate 90% of their existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, sherpa said: You are clearly clueless. The Reformation had nothing to do with "catching up with the Renaissance, and the more capitalistic society emerging at the time." Absolutely nothing. It was about an individual who was a faithful fan of the pope and the Roman Catholic church, and sought rapprochement, getting sick of Catholic officials selling indulgences to raise money for the construction of St. Peter's among other things. They wouldn't relent from the fundraising, and off we go. Nothing to do with emerging capitalism or the renaissance. Do you just dream this stuff up? Ya, the Reformation sure was a response to the new world created by Renaissance economics, thought and the findings of the ancient texts from the Greeks. Martin Luther was a University professor, the Reformation was mostly centered in the cities and was strongly nationalistic. Luther was strongly supported by the new merchant and Burgher class that did not like the taxation imposed from far away Rome. The Church had been undermined by Greek learning--who were these brilliant men that lived before Jesus but were not Christian??--new discoveries like Columbus--if the Church knew everything, why didn't they know you could sail to Asia? The church had also been corrupted by the new wealth that flowed through Italy and was in moral decay on a level unseen before. The printing press had made more people literate and the people took more personal control over their own salvation as the Bible was translated into every language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 You know this just reminded me of a guy who just retired with the company I work for. He had been with the company 40-some years, after beginning his career in the coal mines of Kentucky at the age of 14. He had been through it all and started from the bottom. He is the epitome of religious ignorance. For his final statement at the retirement banquet he said if you only remember one thing about him remember the xlessons I learned..."and many of us thought we were going to get a poignant observation about climbing the ladder of success and what it takes to work with people, because this guy could get anyone to do anything. Instead we were told that if we do not worship Jesus we will go to hell, and Hell is a bad place, basically trying to scare us. It was the most uncomfortable moment and the entire Dynamic of the room changed. He tarnished his legacy by being such a douche. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, westside said: And the democratic party! Younger people are way more secular. They are the most secular generation ever 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: Do you just dream this stuff up? I educate myself. That's not a crime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ya, the Reformation sure was a response to the new world created by Renaissance economics, thought and the findings of the ancient texts from the Greeks. Martin Luther was a University professor, the Reformation was mostly centered in the cities and was strongly nationalistic. Luther was strongly supported by the new merchant and Burgher class that did not like the taxation imposed from far away Rome. The Church had been undermined by Greek learning--who were these brilliant men that lived before Jesus but were not Christian??--new discoveries like Columbus--if the Church knew everything, why didn't they know you could sail to Asia? The church had also been corrupted by the new wealth that flowed through Italy and was in moral decay on a level unseen before. The printing press had made more people literate and the people took more personal control over their own salvation as the Bible was translated into every language What? Martin Luther's issue was that the Pope led Catholic church was inventing non scripturally based principles, largely to raise money. Not much more to it than that. It was really simple. Had noting to do with anything I wasted space quoting from you above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Azalin said: I wouldn't worry about what he says anyway - you can tell he cut & pasted that by the proper spelling and punctuation. Shhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Tibs fails on 15 Christian topics in one thread barely started a total moron on 1,000,000 topics not a ruddy clue at all keep on keeping on, Tibs... Edited March 30, 2018 by row_33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: This from the same Pope who saw himself holding the authority to change the Word of God. Gary, the Deceiver is alive and well, and this Pope holds his hand. He's a fraud. A fake. He is an operative. Known it all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dante said: He's a fraud. A fake. He is an operative. Known it all along. You're just saying that to support your book... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Dante said: He's a fraud. A fake. He is an operative. Known it all along. what circle of Hell do you assign this Moonbeam Pope to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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