jr1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 draft guys like this and quit the QB hysteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, jr1 said: draft guys like this and quit the QB hysteria You can probably get him at 22, but it's unwarranted hyperbole to characterize the desire for a franchise qb after 25 years of mediocrity or worse as hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So I was hearing the opposite on him and this is surprising, but could really benefit the Bills, potentially "Music to my ears!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: So I was hearing the opposite on him and this is surprising, but could really benefit the Bills, potentially Too early to read much into this but he would be intriguing if he was there for us when we pick in the second round. It would allow us to potentially tweak our first round selections if the plan is BPA from the start and if the FO anticipates such a fall. Probably too much to hope for but a fan can dream about it. Edited March 29, 2018 by RochesterRob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: 30" vertical is not NFL material for an LB IMO. Maybe in the 80's, but not in todays game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: Gimme vander Esch I like Vander Esch a lot, but he has some weakness in his game. He does not do well with the trash. If you can keep him untouched he is a terror when he is under control and not over aggressive. But if you watch the game vs Wyoming and UVA he had tough outings because people got their hands on him. To his credit though, he's fairly young at the position and his ceiling is very high and easily a 1st round talent but he's got some things to work on. Evans at this point does a better job using his hands against blockers. You can see this when he's on the 2nd level at the middle spot, but it also shows up when he has his hands in the dirt as a pass rusher going up against offensive tackles. I'm not sure why Evans is choosing not to run. I take either him or Vander Esch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: I like Vander Esch a lot, but he has some weakness in his game. He does not do well with the trash. If you can keep him untouched he is a terror when he is under control and not over aggressive. But if you watch the game vs Wyoming and UVA he had tough outings because people got their hands on him. To his credit though, he's fairly young at the position and his ceiling is very high and easily a 1st round talent but he's got some things to work on. Evans at this point does a better job using his hands against blockers. You can see this when he's on the 2nd level at the middle spot, but it also shows up when he has his hands in the dirt as a pass rusher going up against offensive tackles. I'm not sure why Evans is choosing not to run. I take either him or Vander Esch. not Smith? or are you thinking more BPA for Bills ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: not Smith? or are you thinking more BPA for Bills ? Ohh I'm not advocating drafting either. We gotta get a QB first. I think Smith is the best in the draft at LB. After Smith I like Vander Esch and Leonard then Evans. Something tells me that the Evans we see on tape is not the one that's out there right now. I can't prove anything but I'd suspect he has a wait problem, namely can't wait to eat LOL and that's why he's not running. Just thinking about his vertical I can only imagine there may be some discipline issues with respect to eating. I dunno. Maybe he's hurt. In any case, as much as I'm a defensive guy, we gotta get this QB thing dealt with. Edited March 29, 2018 by NewEraBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Staying at 12 and 22 is looking better, but I still want to go after 4-6. Is 4 or 6 worth 12 & 22 & a 2nd this year or maybe more? None of the QBs available scream future HOFer, but 5 have at least a very small chance at that. IF the Bills have a strong conviction about one or two of these QBs, then by all means try to move up. Still, unlikely to be able to make that happen. If not, I think let the draft play out through pick 5. If someone they are very high on lasts to pick 6, be willing to trade up to both 12 & 22 for him. Otherwise, sit tight at 12 - pick whomever is left (Alle, Mayfield, Rudolph) or another position and regroup to find a QB @ 22 or trade up - or in 2nd round, but know that you will have to move up in round 2 to secure White, Lauletta or Falk... Edited March 29, 2018 by OldTimer1960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, NewEraBills said: Ohh I'm not advocating drafting either. We gotta get a QB first. I think Smith is the best in the draft at LB. After Smith I like Vander Esch and Leonard then Evans. Something tells me that the Evans we see on tape is not the one that's out there right now. I can't prove anything but I'd suspect he has a wait problem, namely can't wait to eat LOL and that's why he's not running. Just thinking about his vertical I can only imagine there may be some discipline with respect to eating. I dunno. Maybe he's hurt. In any case, as much as I'm a defensive guy, we gotta get this QB thing dealt with. I am all about defense. I hate trading up as well. But I am committed to Bills doing the right things and getting a QB. I no longer care which one it is of the top 6. And if they grab one in the second or wait till the third. I have to trust the process. And Bills absolutely need to get a QB they feel strongly about. But I wish that LBs, any or all 3, could be sorted out this offseason. Then i am fine moving to the O line RG RT and WR WR WR WR TE lol. But Man i really want that Defensive Captain for years to come drafted this year. I love my Defenses Go Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Rico said: "Music to my ears!" If you’re a lover of SPARQ scores (or athleticism), this dude has the goods. https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/off-los-linebacker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 13 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Is 4 or 6 worth 12 & 22 & a 2nd this year or maybe more? None of the QBs available scream future HOFer, but 5 have at least a very small chance at that. IF the Bills have a strong conviction about one or two of these QBs, then by all means try to move up. Still, unlikely to be able to make that happen. If not, I think let the draft play out through pick 5. If someone they are very high on lasts to pick 6, be willing to trade up to both 12 & 22 for him. Otherwise, sit tight at 12 - pick whomever is left (Alle, Mayfield, Rudolph) or another position and regroup to find a QB @ 22 or trade up - or in 2nd round, but know that you will have to move up in round 2 to secure White, Lauletta or Falk... you do mean a QB i think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: you do mean a QB i think ? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Leighton Vander Esch sounds like a character from Gossip Girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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