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9 hours ago, Magox said:

Despite the hysterics from some of the boards ninny's, both McD and Beane's future is a certainty for the next 2 seasons, unless somehow there is a full blown mutiny from the team, which judging from the players view of McD that would be highly unlikely.  They respect the man and have totally bought into the "process".   

 

Beane has stated his main job is to find the team a franchise QB, I suspect he will do everything he REASONABLY can to address that this year.   

 

 

Agreed. With the proviso that something that might be unreasonable another year would be quite reasonable this year when you have a lot of picks and a lot of good QBs in the draft. He might have to spend more than we would like. He should still do it. There should be a limit. The limit should be quite a bit higher than most here think.

 

As for the OP, I don't think he has goals for this year. I think his goals are long-term, that that's what the process means. You consistently work as hard as you can towards the long-term goals, understanding there'll be bumps, bruises, regressions, advances, disappointment and achievement. You don't worry about any of them too much. You just keep advancing towards those goals..

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15 hours ago, corta765 said:

Good post. I think they are two directions they are heading based off what they can or cannot do in the draft. Either way they want to create a roster that can be a contender year in year out it just comes down to one of these two things:

 

1. They can trade up to #2 so they can grab Rosen who it seems is their eye (I could be wrong). From there I think they are willing to take their lumps because like you said they made the playoffs so the pressure is back. They have upwards of 90 million in cap space in 2019 so let the rookie get through a year and build like hell around him with that cap space. From there 2019 hopefully is the big year where you are going for the division crown and hopefully just maybe one of Brady and BB might be gone. This is my preferred scenario because once you have the QB you have the plan set and the cap space to be aggressive in the correct way long term.

 

2. They cannot move up in the draft due to unwillingness of teams to move out so they build the roster instead and grab perhaps a guy like Mason Rudolph, Kyle Lualetta, Mike White etc.. by moving back into the first or early 2nd round. This is similar to what Minnesota did where they added a ton of talent all over and drafted a guy like Teddy B late and just hoped he didn't wreck the ship without much pressure. For example adding 1st rnd: LB Tremaine Edwards VA Tech, C James Daniel Iowa, QB Mason Rudolph (trade up) 2nd Rnd: WR James Washington 3rd: RB Nick Chubb UGA, & OL Orlando Brown OKL (for example I used a mock draft engine not saying this is who I want either) would be the potential of 2-3 starters plus good depth guys for this season. The team potentially could compete better then the one above with Rosen given the holes filled for the upcoming season but the QB would be a far greater question mark then with Rosen who you know would be your lock long term for better or worse.

 

 

If they can't move up in the draft, maybe they settle for Rudolph or Jackson or Lauletta or someone like that.

 

My bet, though is that if they can't move up then they trade one of their firsts back for a first next year. And maybe they trade a 2nd for a 2nd next year too. They prepare themselves to try to get a great QB next year rather than settle for a lesser one this year.

 

 

5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Why? We made the playoffs this year with no talent at QB.

 

 

And with a very easy schedule where even the good teams were mired in slumps when they played us and even with all that luck we only managed 9-7.

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11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

I take it reading comprehension is not your strong suit? I'm agreeing with their hypothetical assessment that they've bought some time. 

 

The first part was a joke due to your poor English.  Don't get so mad bro.

 

11 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

 If you honestly think that every manager is trying to shoot the moon with every staff they have at all times, I'd love to know what else is in that head. 

 

You're saying that.   I never said it.   That's homo talk.  The staffs are mostly dudes.   Get your mind out of the gutter.  You think these managers just want to drop their pants and throw ass glances at the rest of their staff?   Weird man.   Just weird.   Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

12 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

 A rookie QB has never done it, and this team has a lot that needs to improve to compete with the modern NFL where every championship team is built like the yankees of old. Losing is acceptable when winning isn't the goal.

 

Just because a rookie has never won a Superbowl doesn't mean there won't be a first time and it doesn't mean you give up trying and go into the season with the assumption that you can't win it all.   How incredibly lame.

 

If winning isn't the goal and winning a Superbowl every year isn't the goal, why even play the game.  

 

Why even watch the games?

 

I get it.  As a Bills fan you are used to losing and have been beaten to submission over the years where you just want to throw the towel in earlier and earlier every year.   This year for you, you're throwing in the towel even before the draft.    Yikes.

 

The Bills were good before and can be again.    There is no reason why they can't be this year.   Beane, McDermott and his entire coaching staff know this.    The existing players on the team know this.   And I bet, as of right now,  they intend to win every single game this year - one at a time.    If Beane or McDermott possessed the attitude you are assuming they do, I doubt they ever would have risen as high as they already have in their careers.   They would have been weeded out of the NFL by now.   

 

I feel sorry for your defeatist outlook this early in the year.    Pet a dog today.  It's national puppy day.   You'll feel better.

 

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9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Why? We made the playoffs this year with no talent at QB.

Thanks to Dalton and a few other teams because without that the wild card would have never happened on our record alone.

 

It took decades for that miracle of the stars to line up perfectly once, I don't want to wait another 2 decades for a wild card to happen once. I want my team to have a dynasty of domination not the garbage of the past since Kelly wishing for that one miracle season of a wild card birth to happen with a backup QB as the starter. Sadly that no talent at QB gave us even less in that game, sorry not sorry I want more and a real talent at QB is what good teams have when every year playoff runs happen. 

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11 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Does anyone honestly think McDermott or Beane are worried about what they need to do to keep their job? That’s a total loser mentality.

 

They want to win. They expect to win.  Competitive self respecting alpha males aren’t sitting around trying to figure out how much losing they can get away with.... 

No worries this year.   

Not after what they accomplished in 17 

 

 

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2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

No worries this year.   

Not after what they accomplished in 17 

 

 

Worries will start in 19 when all they have to fall back on at QB is Peterman and some other late rounder like White.

 

What did they really accomplish a lucky wild card? Luck happens every once in a while, relying on luck will get one fired.

 

Until a QB is found does that one wild card game really matter. Color me very  little inpressed. IMO this draft is the holy grail of a late rounder QB luck or a top 1st rounder making his first season start in 19.

IMO 2019 is either fans giving this staff a free season because of rookie first season or fans shaking there heads as to why all we have is late rounder QBs still on the roster.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

And with a very easy schedule where even the good teams were mired in slumps when they played us and even with all that luck we only managed 9-7.

 

BS.  We made it.  Deal with it.

 

Go BILLS !!

3 hours ago, xRUSHx said:

Thanks to Dalton and a few other teams because without that the wild card would have never happened on our record alone. It took decades for that miracle of the stars to line up perfectly once, I don't want to wait another 2 decades for a wild card to happy once. I want my team to have a dynasty of domination not the garbage of the past since Kelly wishing for that one miracle season of a wild card birth to happen with a backup QB as the starter. Sadly that no talent at QB gave us even less in that game, sorry not sorry I want more and a real talent at QB is what good teams have when every year playoff runs happen. 

 

We made the playoffs because we were better than 10 other teams in the AFC even with Hotrod at QB.  Deal with it.

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7 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

BS.  We made it.  Deal with it.

 

Go BILLS !!

 

We made the playoffs because we were better than 10 other teams in the AFC even with Hotrod at QB.  Deal with it.

Tyrod is a backup and stinks. He is on a different team, deal with it. HotRod played more like timidrod.

 

We made the playoffs because of AD, deal with it because it's the truth and you know it.

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1 minute ago, xRUSHx said:

Tyrod is a backup and stinks. He is on a different team, deal with it. HotRod played more like timidrod.

 

We made the playoffs because of AD, deal with it because it's the truth and you know it.

 

Actually Hotord is the starter according to he new HC and the 2 he had before that.  But keep telling yourself he's not if it makes you feel better.

 

We made the playoffs because  by the rules of the NFL known to all teams before the season started, we were better than 10 other teams in the AFC.  Top 6 get in every year. Look it up.

 

We made the playoffs because of a TEAM EFFORT.  And we're gonna do it again this year!  

 

Go BILLS !!!

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9 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Actually Hotord is the starter according to he new HC and the 2 he had before that.  But keep telling yourself he's not if it makes you feel better.

 

We made the playoffs because of a TEAM EFFORT.  And we're gonna do it again this year!  

 

Go BILLS !!!

Buffalo has a better chance at a playoff run without having timidrod on our team that's for sure. Cleveland is blind, IMO Darnold will take his job by midseason when fans see what Tyrod really is, just make him a QB and fail every staff. Tyrod will have problems getting a backup job after his fail in Cleveland.

 

Only thing Tyrod is good at is holding a towel on his head and getting OCs fired.

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38 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Actually Hotord is the starter according to he new HC and the 2 he had before that.  But keep telling yourself he's not if it makes you feel better.

 

We made the playoffs because  by the rules of the NFL known to all teams before the season started, we were better than 10 other teams in the AFC.  Top 6 get in every year. Look it up.

 

We made the playoffs because of a TEAM EFFORT.  And we're gonna do it again this year!  

 

Go BILLS !!!

 

I'm as happy as anyone we made the playoffs, but it wasnt because we were "the better team", it's because according to the rules, we were finally mathematically lucky. Last year's team wasnt even the best of the drought teams. It wasnt our first 9-7 season. It was merely the first time we did just enough, and other teams played out the right way, for us to back in.

 

Again, not trying to take anything away, rain on parades, or anything like that. But we weren't the better team. Heck, we LOST to the Bengals who helped back us in and didnt even make it themselves.

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3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

No worries this year.   

Not after what they accomplished in 17 

 

 

 

Thats not my point. If these guys are deciding what to do or not do based on the likelihood they will be fired, they just need to be fired. 

 

Winners don’t worry about how to avoid losing- They are busy looking forward determining how to keep building and get better. 

 

If they get it wrong and suffer a consequence, so be it. 

 

McDermott isn’t some wuss cowering in the corner trying to prolong his tenure... and if he was I’d want him out immediately 

 

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6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'm as happy as anyone we made the playoffs, but it wasnt because we were "the better team", it's because according to the rules, we were finally mathematically lucky. Last year's team wasnt even the best of the drought teams. It wasnt our first 9-7 season. It was merely the first time we did just enough, and other teams played out the right way, for us to back in.

 

Again, not trying to take anything away, rain on parades, or anything like that. But we weren't the better team. Heck, we LOST to the Bengals who helped back us in and didnt even make it themselves.

 

Agree to disagree. By definition, playoff teams are BETTER than non playoff teams (if the non playoff teams were better, why didn't the make it and us not?)

 

Bills had  great season compared to the last 17. Why can't we just be happy about it and proud of our team and look to brighter days ahead?

 

It's really not necessary when the Bills do something good to find a yeah butt.

 

I'll go with the NFL that we were better this year than 10 other teams in AFC.  You go with wherever you got that from that we aren't.

 

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8 hours ago, PolishDave said:

 

The first part was a joke due to your poor English.  Don't get so mad bro.

 

 

You're saying that.   I never said it.   That's homo talk.  The staffs are mostly dudes.   Get your mind out of the gutter.  You think these managers just want to drop their pants and throw ass glances at the rest of their staff?   Weird man.   Just weird.   Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

 

Just because a rookie has never won a Superbowl doesn't mean there won't be a first time and it doesn't mean you give up trying and go into the season with the assumption that you can't win it all.   How incredibly lame.

 

If winning isn't the goal and winning a Superbowl every year isn't the goal, why even play the game.  

 

Why even watch the games?

 

I get it.  As a Bills fan you are used to losing and have been beaten to submission over the years where you just want to throw the towel in earlier and earlier every year.   This year for you, you're throwing in the towel even before the draft.    Yikes.

 

The Bills were good before and can be again.    There is no reason why they can't be this year.   Beane, McDermott and his entire coaching staff know this.    The existing players on the team know this.   And I bet, as of right now,  they intend to win every single game this year - one at a time.    If Beane or McDermott possessed the attitude you are assuming they do, I doubt they ever would have risen as high as they already have in their careers.   They would have been weeded out of the NFL by now.   

 

I feel sorry for your defeatist outlook this early in the year.    Pet a dog today.  It's national puppy day.   You'll feel better.

 

Looks like my assumption was correct. You incorrectly parsed the most simple and straightforward of messages, and added a little bit of non-sequiter homophobia for added flair. Well done.

 

0/10. Try again.

3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Thats not my point. If these guys are deciding what to do or not do based on the likelihood they will be fired, they just need to be fired. 

 

Winners don’t worry about how to avoid losing- They are busy looking forward determining how to keep building and get better. 

 

If they get it wrong and suffer a consequence, so be it. 

 

McDermott isn’t some wuss cowering in the corner trying to prolong his tenure... and if he was I’d want him out immediately 

 

You understand that in order to see your vision through to completion you have to have time though, right?

 

He had to right the ship to prove to the players, staff, and management what they're capable of. He also had to assess what he had.

 

Now they'll look at replacing the beams and braces.

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Looks like my assumption was correct. You incorrectly parsed the most simple and straightforward of messages, and added a little bit of non-sequiter homophobia for added flair. Well done.

 

0/10. Try again.

You understand that in order to see your vision through to completion you have to have time though, right?

 

He had to right the ship to prove to the players, staff, and management what they're capable of. He also had to assess what he had.

 

Now they'll look at replacing the beams and braces.

 

Winners are getting better every single day, or at least attempting to.  Everything they do they think made them better. It permiates in everything they do.

 

Winners never suggest that their last win or winning season for that matter, gives them an opportunity to ease off. 

 

It won't always work, but I guarantee they expect to earn the right to compete for the championship next year. And I wouldn’t want it any other way. 

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