PIZ Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 If they stay at 12, I think its between Allen and Rudolph if both are there. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000922123/QB-matchmaker-Finding-team-fits-for-draft-s-top-prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'd take the red nosed reindeer at 12 before Mason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd take the red nosed reindeer at 12 before Mason. Clever, but I would take Mason Rudolph at 12......... cue the "glad you are not the Bills GM". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, PIZ said: Clever, but I would take Mason Rudolph at 12......... cue the "glad you are not the Bills GM". glad you are not the Bills GM 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 I am glad Beane is the Bills GM by the way. I think McDermott and Beane have the philosophy that it comes down to a team, and not one player, which is why I think they stay at 12 and keep the picks. So many awesome talents in the first 70 picks and the Bills roster is full of holes and needs an upgrade across the board. I personally think that Mason Rudolph has the potential to be as good as the perceived top 4 QBs in the draft. I personally think that there isn't as much of a difference between them. The media and "experts" hype them up, but the real NFL guys see the truth. I like Rudolph as the Bills QB, while I respect that others do not. Here is an article that has lots of Rudolph comments and data that I think McDermott and Beane would appreciate. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/3/3/17073246/mason-rudolph-draft-oklahoma-state-qb-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, PIZ said: I am glad Beane is the Bills GM by the way. I think McDermott and Beane have the philosophy that it comes down to a team, and not one player, which is why I think they stay at 12 and keep the picks. So many awesome talents in the first 70 picks and the Bills roster is full of holes and needs an upgrade across the board. I personally think that Mason Rudolph has the potential to be as good as the perceived top 4 QBs in the draft. I personally think that there isn't as much of a difference between them. The media and "experts" hype them up, but the real NFL guys see the truth. I like Rudolph as the Bills QB, while I respect that others do not. Here is an article that has lots of Rudolph comments and data that I think McDermott and Beane would appreciate. https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/3/3/17073246/mason-rudolph-draft-oklahoma-state-qb-2018 Not sure they are going to SB Nation for their info. This guy is not a first round pick. 3-4 range who could turn out to be average. Has very little to no upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Not sure they are going to SB Nation for their info. This guy is not a first round pick. 3-4 range who could turn out to be average. Has very little to no upside. I wasn't saying they would go to SB Nation for info.....meant the quotes from Rudolph's interview and his stats. I disagree on the range, but that is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: I wasn't saying they would go to SB Nation for info.....meant the quotes from Rudolph's interview and his stats. I disagree on the range, but that is fine. Gotcha. I think they will do their due diligence and vet these guys. My issue with Rudolph is teh lack of upside. I see very little difference between him, AJ McCarron, Nate Peterman...yet people want to use a 1st round pick. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I would take the reindeer if I had to take a qb there. Might take a LB instead though. Probably go bpa. But that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 59 minutes ago, PIZ said: Clever, but I would take Mason Rudolph at 12......... cue the "glad you are not the Bills GM". 50 minutes ago, DCOrange said: glad you are not the Bills GM Plus 1. I like him I just don't 12 like him. Heck I don't 22 like him. I would 53 like him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Gotcha. I think they will do their due diligence and vet these guys. My issue with Rudolph is teh lack of upside. I see very little difference between him, AJ McCarron, Nate Peterman...yet people want to use a 1st round pick. I just don't get it. I've been away on my annual golfing vacation to Alabama and the RTJ Trail (haven't posted recently). So Alabama gets me thinking about AJ McCarron and people on these threads shilling for Mason Rudolph at #12 I see we are in agreement as is usually the case. Below are where each stood after the combine -dead even! I would also add small caveat that AJ McCarron has experience in the NFL which puts him ahead. IMO we already have our Mason Rudolph potential wise.....don't draft him with number 12...AJ was a 5th for a little perspective. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/mason-rudolph?id=2559942 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/aj-mccarron?id=2543497 Edited March 20, 2018 by horned dogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, PIZ said: If they stay at 12, I think its between Allen and Rudolph if both are there. http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-path-to-the-draft/0ap3000000922123/QB-matchmaker-Finding-team-fits-for-draft-s-top-prospects There's a very real chance that 4 QBs will be taken before the Bills pick at 12 (Browns, Giants, Jets, Denver) and my guess is they will be Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield and Allen though not necessarily in that order. That leaves Jackson and Rudolph among the hyped QBs and I don't think either one is worth a 12th pick. There's a mixed bag of QBs available later in the draft and Free Agency that include Logan Woodside (supposedly the Pats have been scouting him in depth), Falk, Lauletta, White, Chase Litton etc. None of them jump out as a "franchise QB" but you never know. I'm willing to bet the Bills have looked at more than a few of them so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBLESS Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I'd take the red nosed reindeer at 12 before Mason. All five or six of those quarterbacks have nothing but failure written all over them -----except which ever one I happen to favor, and HE can't miss. If I wasn't so sold on my ability to scout college football players, I might consider that pro scouts have better knowledge, however, I AM certain that I have it correct, and will let everyone know when I decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'd take the red nosed Rudolph at 12 and have him return kicks and be my outside WR. The guy can fly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, PBLESS said: All five or six of those quarterbacks have nothing but failure written all over them -----except which ever one I happen to favor, and HE can't miss. If I wasn't so sold on my ability to scout college football players, I might consider that pro scouts have better knowledge, however, I AM certain that I have it correct, and will let everyone know when I decide. Expressing an opinion on a Buffalo Bills Message Board? The nerve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, PIZ said: Clever, but I would take Mason Rudolph at 12......... cue the "glad you are not the Bills GM". Rudolph will probably turn out to be the best quarterback in this draft. I see Rosen, Allen and Mayfield all busting. And Sam Darnold will be a Brown. Nuff said there. Jackson and Rudolph will outperform the big four IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronthebaron Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, PBLESS said: All five or six of those quarterbacks have nothing but failure written all over them -----except which ever one I happen to favor, and HE can't miss. If I wasn't so sold on my ability to scout college football players, I might consider that pro scouts have better knowledge, however, I AM certain that I have it correct, and will let everyone know when I decide. Made me LOL. Same, I’m watching the “all throws” reels on the top 4 and completely convinced I had the answer. Then realized a few hours doesn’t make me a scout. If they think one of these guys is the answer, do what you can to jump to picks 1 or 2. If any doubt, get someone after the 1st round and hope they’re so shoulder chipped that they Brees or Brady it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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