BBillsWestCoast Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 When picking a QB guys like Polian look at the following: Leadership Health Love of the game Student of the game Can make all the throws in the route tree Floor versus ceiling Chemistry with Coach I have my opinions from what the rumors are and everything I have read about his system, but... What I can't seem to find is in regard to Brian Daboll's offensive philosophy is which draft pick would be the best fit? I think it is Darnold or Rosen. If it is Allen, then we will spend on a free agent this week. If it is Mayfield, then we trade to slot #4. The system looks like a run first philosophy with 5-15 yard throws using and an occasional bomb. Rosen is proven, Allen killed it at the combine and Darnold is pretty good. If Mayfield was 3 inches taller I would take him #1. Top 3 Darnold seems quiet for a leader and threw a lot of picks, but is an escape artist. Probably a lock to be in the league for a decade. Rosen may be breakable and for such a smooth accurate passer it wobbles like a Manning. Best floor, but needs protection. Josh Allen will take sometime to grow into a passer and may have accuracy issues, but has a huge ceiling along with the risk. This guy is huge and athletic. Next Best Mayfield is the best leader and reeks of attitude for a smurf. His accuracy and arm is better than I thought. The dude just wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield. The Erhardt-Perkins Offense is predicated on being smart, quick diagnosis, ball placement and presnap reads. Think NE offense The backbone of the Erhardt-Perkins system is that plays — pass plays in particular — are not organized by a route tree or by calling a single receiver’s route, but by what coaches refer to as “concepts.” Each play has a name, and that name conjures up an image for both the quarterback and the other players on offense. And, most importantly, the concept can be called from almost any formation or set. Who does what changes, but the theory and tactics driving the play do not. “In essence, you’re running the same play,” said Perkins. “You’re just giving them some window-dressing to make it look different.” The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. http://grantland.com/features/how-terminology-erhardt-perkins-system-helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2016/7/15/12188564/summer-school-erhardt-perkins-offense-belichick-weis-parcells-brady-patriots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BBillsWestCoast said: When picking a QB guys like Polian look at the following: Leadership Health Love of the game Student of the game Can make all the throws in the route tree Floor versus ceiling Chemistry with Coach I have my opinions from what the rumors are and everything I have read about his system, but... What I can't seem to find is in regard to Brian Daboll's offensive philosophy is which draft pick would be the best fit? I think it is Darnold or Rosen. If it is Allen, then we will spend on a free agent this week. If it is Mayfield, then we trade to slot #4. The system looks like a run first philosophy with 5-15 yard throws using and an occasional bomb. Rosen is proven, Allen killed it at the combine and Darnold is pretty good. If Mayfield was 3 inches taller I would take him #1. Top 3 Darnold seems quiet for a leader and threw a lot of picks, but is an escape artist. Probably a lock to be in the league for a decade. Rosen may be breakable and for such a smooth accurate passer it wobbles like a Manning. Best floor, but needs protection. Josh Allen will take sometime to grow into a passer and may have accuracy issues, but has a huge ceiling along with the risk. This guy is huge and athletic. Next Best Mayfield is the best leader and reeks of attitude for a smurf. His accuracy and arm is better than I thought. The dude just wins. Darnold averaged one pick per game in a high scoring offense. The majority of those picks happened early in the season, before he and his receivers settled in. More worrisome is his fumbling but he's the best prospect in years. Edited March 13, 2018 by yungmack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Give me Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Pick the right QB and build your system to fit him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 AJ Mcarron he played at Alabama with our new Offensive coordinator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: AJ Mcarron he played at Alabama with our new Offensive coordinator. Daboll was coaching in the NFL when McCarron was at Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Fact is we have no system yet. McD simply blew it with his '17 system and who he hired to develop and implement it and his OC firing puts us at square 1. McD and the gang also totally mismanaged the player development of Peterman so the O is actually below square 1. Daboli is a reasonable hire but should not be mistaken for a slam dunk. The system is run when you can/pass when you have to and most of all be productive with the players you got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, KingRex said: Fact is we have no system yet. McD simply blew it with his '17 system and who he hired to develop and implement it and his OC firing puts us at square 1. McD and the gang also totally mismanaged the player development of Peterman so the O is actually below square 1. Daboli is a reasonable hire but should not be mistaken for a slam dunk. The system is run when you can/pass when you have to and most of all be productive with the players you got. The system is an Erhardt-Perkins Offense based system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Mayfield please. He is taller than Drew Brees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Daboll showed he could work with a game manager like Hurts and more of a gunslinger in Tua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, MAJBobby said: The system is an Erhardt-Perkins Offense based system Needs a new name.. Ready to gouge my eyes out seeing people reference this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield. The Erhardt-Perkins Offense is predicated on being smart, quick diagnosis, ball placement and presnap reads. Think NE offense The backbone of the Erhardt-Perkins system is that plays — pass plays in particular — are not organized by a route tree or by calling a single receiver’s route, but by what coaches refer to as “concepts.” Each play has a name, and that name conjures up an image for both the quarterback and the other players on offense. And, most importantly, the concept can be called from almost any formation or set. Who does what changes, but the theory and tactics driving the play do not. “In essence, you’re running the same play,” said Perkins. “You’re just giving them some window-dressing to make it look different.” The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. http://grantland.com/features/how-terminology-erhardt-perkins-system-helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2016/7/15/12188564/summer-school-erhardt-perkins-offense-belichick-weis-parcells-brady-patriots Why is everyone excluding Lamar Jackson?? Petrino's system was derived from Perkins-Erhardt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Wrong question. The right thing to ask is which one projects to be the best irrespective of any system. Edited March 13, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBillsWestCoast Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 hours ago, KingRex said: Fact is we have no system yet. McD simply blew it with his '17 system and who he hired to develop and implement it and his OC firing puts us at square 1. McD and the gang also totally mismanaged the player development of Peterman so the O is actually below square 1. Daboli is a reasonable hire but should not be mistaken for a slam dunk. The system is run when you can/pass when you have to and most of all be productive with the players you got. That was something I have been fearful of. We seem to have the defensive system down, but the offense is unknown and questionable. 8 hours ago, yungmack said: Darnold averaged one pick per game in a high scoring offense. The majority of those picks happened early in the season, before he and his receivers settled in. More worrisome is his fumbling but he's the best prospect in years. very good to know! 10 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Rosen, Darnold and Mayfield. The Erhardt-Perkins Offense is predicated on being smart, quick diagnosis, ball placement and presnap reads. Think NE offense The backbone of the Erhardt-Perkins system is that plays — pass plays in particular — are not organized by a route tree or by calling a single receiver’s route, but by what coaches refer to as “concepts.” Each play has a name, and that name conjures up an image for both the quarterback and the other players on offense. And, most importantly, the concept can be called from almost any formation or set. Who does what changes, but the theory and tactics driving the play do not. “In essence, you’re running the same play,” said Perkins. “You’re just giving them some window-dressing to make it look different.” The biggest advantage of the concept-based system is that it operates from the perspective of the most critical player on offense: the quarterback. http://grantland.com/features/how-terminology-erhardt-perkins-system-helped-maintain-dominance-tom-brady-patriots/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bigblueview.com/platform/amp/2016/7/15/12188564/summer-school-erhardt-perkins-offense-belichick-weis-parcells-brady-patriots Super informative! thank you. It seems QB friendly and I can't wait to cheat and use a ton of pick plays like the Pat's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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