Jay_Fixit Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) On 3/4/2018 at 1:40 AM, PIZ said: Per Benjamin Allbrights Twitter: "Everyone who had Richmond QB Kyle Lauletta slotted as a "day 3 guy" can go ahead and move him up to day 2". Per Eric Edholm, Pro Football Weekly Twitter: "Anyone remember QB Aaron Corp? Had cups of coffee with the Bills, Cowboys and Dolphins He was Kyle Lauletta's QB coach this past season at Richmond". Expand I was actually there for Aaron Corps only career FBS start (with USC). Here at UW. Jake Locker’s coming out party. Huskies pulled a huge upset. One of the coolest experiences I’ve had at a college game. Aaron Corp. Terrible. Edited March 4, 2018 by Jay_Fixit
plenzmd1 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 3:46 PM, Jay_Fixit said: I was actually there for Aaron Corps only career college start. Here at UW. Jake Locker’s coming out party. Expand Corp transferred to Richmond and had plenty of starts..Lauletta is WAY better than Corp. Not even close
boyst Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 5:08 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: Go back and read the exchange and you can off. Expand 1
CuddyDark Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 3:33 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: So you're saying all QB prospects have an equal chance to be good players at the NFL level? Lauletta is just as likely to be as good as Darnold or Rosen? I disagree on Mayfield, but if that's your opinion fine. Expand Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 4:24 PM, CuddyDark said: Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10. Expand There are holes in the respective games of each of the top tiered QBs as most will acknowledge. I'm certain that Rosen, Darnold, and Allen will all be selected within the top 10 with Mayfield a possibility as well. We'll soon see who's correct.
BringBackFergy Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 3:42 PM, SouthNYfan said: That's what it sounds like he's implying, or at least what I got out of it. There are 5 legit prospects this year, even if everybody ranks them differently, the overwhelming majority seems to have it as, in no particular order: -Allen -darnold - Ferguson -Rosen -Jackson -mayfield Outside of them, I haven't heard any top QB talk, just a bunch of "he might be good" guys. Technically any guy can be good, as guys like Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Carr, and other later picks have shown. They are the exception though, not the norm, and the % of top5 drafted QBs that succeed is astronomically higher, so I'm with you cb26. If they like a guy, go freaking get him. Obviously if nobody wants to trade, they need a backup plan, but Christ Almighty, we can't go into the draft with lauletta/Rudolph/white as plan A Expand Fixed it for you.
SouthNYfan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 5:06 PM, BringBackFergy said: Fixed it for you. Expand Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects. I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects. Nice try though.
BringBackFergy Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 6:02 PM, SouthNYfan said: Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects. I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects. Nice try though. Expand Opinions vary.
boyst Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 6:02 PM, SouthNYfan said: Ferguson is not one of the top 5 consensus QB prospects. I don't care if YOU like him best, it's an absolute fact that the 5 I listed are the top5 consensus prospects. Nice try though. Expand Ferguson has roots in WNY, his uncle is an ambulance chaser outside lake flaccid. This is a good opportunity for him to come in to the area
SouthNYfan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 6:07 PM, BringBackFergy said: Opinions vary. Expand Not in this case. Who YOU feel belongs in the top5, and who is the consensus top5 from actual sources/reports are not the same thing. It's not an opinion who the consensus top5 QBs in this draft are. The only thing that varies is the order they are ranked within each other. On 3/4/2018 at 6:19 PM, Boyst62 said: Ferguson has roots in WNY, his uncle is an ambulance chaser outside lake flaccid. This is a good opportunity for him to come in to the area Expand Didn't say anything about that, fergy was acting like he's a top5 consensus QB pick, which he isn't.
Buffalo716 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 3:42 PM, SouthNYfan said: That's what it sounds like he's implying, or at least what I got out of it. There are 5 legit prospects this year, even if everybody ranks them differently, the overwhelming majority seems to have it as, in no particular order: -Allen -darnold -Rosen -Jackson -mayfield Outside of them, I haven't heard any top QB talk, just a bunch of "he might be good" guys. Technically any guy can be good, as guys like Brady, Wilson, Rodgers, Carr, and other later picks have shown. They are the exception though, not the norm, and the % of top5 drafted QBs that succeed is astronomically higher, so I'm with you cb26. If they like a guy, go freaking get him. Obviously if nobody wants to trade, they need a backup plan, but Christ Almighty, we can't go into the draft with lauletta/Rudolph/white as plan A Expand Rodgers was a first round pick and Carr was a second. I get your point but I definitely wouldn't classify those 2 as late round QBs they were first 2 rounds 1
SouthNYfan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 6:45 PM, Buffalo716 said: Rodgers was a first round pick and Carr was a second. I get your point but I definitely wouldn't classify those 2 as late round QBs they were first 2 rounds Expand That's fair I was just saying they weren't "omg top picks" per say Anyway, the point we agree on
BringBackFergy Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 6:35 PM, SouthNYfan said: Not in this case. Who YOU feel belongs in the top5, and who is the consensus top5 from actual sources/reports are not the same thing. It's not an opinion who the consensus top5 QBs in this draft are. The only thing that varies is the order they are ranked within each other. Expand You’re right...I should listen to Mel Kiper (Mr. Jimmy Clausen himself) and that other bonehead who thought Ryan Nassib would be drafted #1 overall. If you base your arguments (and attacks) on consensus, you’re a follower with no original thought. Air go, I’ll choose to disregard your argument.
Kmart128 Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 We seem more interested in Mike White than Lauletta
SouthNYfan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 8:31 PM, BringBackFergy said: You’re right...I should listen to Mel Kiper (Mr. Jimmy Clausen himself) and that other bonehead who thought Ryan Nassib would be drafted #1 overall. If you base your arguments (and attacks) on consensus, you’re a follower with no original thought. Air go, I’ll choose to disregard your argument. Expand They make a lot more money than you and I to do exactly that, generate a consensus draft ranking. Riley Ferguson, I am 100% positive, is not a top5 qb prospect on any NFL scouts' list, ERGO, he is not a consensus top5 prospect. He may be who a team thinks they will be able to draft, or who they want to draft based on his value/draft location, but the statement was who was a top5 prospect, which he is NOT, regardless of your opinion.
BringBackFergy Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 8:52 PM, SouthNYfan said: They make a lot more money than you and I to do exactly that, generate a consensus draft ranking. Riley Ferguson, I am 100% positive, is not a top5 qb prospect on any NFL scouts' list, ERGO, he is not a consensus top5 prospect. He may be who a team thinks they will be able to draft, or who they want to draft based on his value/draft location, but the statement was who was a top5 prospect, which he is NOT, regardless of your opinion. Expand That’s funny, I thought this thread was about Lauletta until you chimed in with your consensus Top 5. I have to hand it to you, nice job regurgitating the same Top 5 as every other website draft guru who drinks Mountain Dew by the liter and wears Birkenstocks. Bravo!
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 4:24 PM, CuddyDark said: Yeah I'm not sold on Rosen. Darnold is probably overrated as well but I like him. I'm saying there is not a slam dunk QB in this draft. Most evaluators have said none are as good as Wentz. Sure they'll be drafted high but only because they're QB's. Not because they deserve drafting in the top five. I still believe their draft status is a smokescreen and only two will go in the top 10. Expand Or 4 will be selected in the first 6 picks. I think that is more likely than only 2 in top 10. We'll see these guys may be better than you think.
SouthNYfan Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:07 PM, BringBackFergy said: That’s funny, I thought this thread was about Lauletta until you chimed in with your consensus Top 5. I have to hand it to you, nice job regurgitating the same Top 5 as every other website draft guru who drinks Mountain Dew by the liter and wears Birkenstocks. Bravo! Expand The thread was accepted about lauletta, which somebody was all up on him being a top choice, to which I brought up the top5, to which you "fixed it" by adding Ferguson. Stop the bull *****t.
CuddyDark Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:13 PM, horned dogs said: Or 4 will be selected in the first 6 picks. I think that is more likely than only 2 in top 10. We'll see these guys may be better than you think. Expand I would take a cash bet of 4 in the top 6.
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:43 PM, CuddyDark said: I would take a cash bet of 4 in the top 6. Expand You're on and you need only 2 in top 10.
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