nucci Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, kdiggz said: That's why they would want a trade partner set in stone. Thus the 3 team trade True, as long as 1 team doesn't pull a Josh McDaniels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Pill! So...you’re sayin’ there’s a chance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't stop billievein Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: So...you’re sayin’ there’s a chance.... AVP still has some left in him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 25 minutes ago, nucci said: I don't do shines no more. You been away a long time maybe you didn't hear.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: So...you’re sayin’ there’s a chance.... Better chance that you jump out of a window and fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-gm-reveals-what-bill-belichick-told-him-before-making-the-garoppolo-trade/ Quote "Bill, beyond thinking this kid was a special football player, thought he was a special person," Lynch said recently, via MMQB.com. "And he just said, 'You're gonna love the player, guys respond to him.' I didn't know what that meant. You think you know, but (we saw) that right away, even when he wasn't playing." Quote "[Jimmy] just had command, he became a leader instantly," Lynch said. "And you kept hearing that from people at New England -- the guys love him. You don't really know what that means until you see it, and right away we saw it." Quote "We want Jimmy to be a Niner for a long, long time," Lynch said Tuesday, via the team's official website. "That process is going to take place here. We're eager to get that done, to have the opportunity. But, I think one thing that we really believe is that those things should take place between us and his representatives and not occur and transpire in the public. That's the way we're going to treat that. You have our assurances, and the fans do, that we'd like nothing more than to make him a Niner for a long, long time." These dont look like comments of a GM who is not keeping Garoppolo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-gm-reveals-what-bill-belichick-told-him-before-making-the-garoppolo-trade/ These dont look like comments of a GM who is not keeping Garoppolo. Why would you believe anything the 49ers' GM says when you have a post from Facebook? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Jimmy G is a better player than Cousins. The only thing that would make this semi-legit is if Lynch / Shanahan had promised Cousins he will be the starter in SFO - which caused him to opt for the franchise tag two years in a row. Then might as well move Jimmy G for a pick + player. And it will likely be an AFC team instead of an NFC team. No team will give up a first unless they can sign Jimmy G long term - so Jimmy G can control the process to some extent. So likely no Cards / Giants / Browns / Jets. That makes Broncos / Bills as the likely teams. I just dont undertsand how the Redskins factor into the rumor - they have washed their hands off Cousins with the Smith trade, no? 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why would you believe anything the 49ers' GM says when you have a post from Facebook? lol true. Wikipedia and FB are the true tests of truth now, arent they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Better chance that you jump out of a window and fly. You go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: You go first. Nah, that's a Gugny move. Try it and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I don't think it would happen but I am game if it did. Jimmy G is the bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: I think jimmy already made it pretty apparent in san fran the rest of the team isn't as big an issue if you have a huge talent at qb. so cap number at that point isn't as big an issue. is it going to surprise you if they give him a huge number and they keep winning like they did to finish out the 17 season?.... and your original rebuttal towards me was not wanting to trade those picks for him based on small sample size... whats a smaller sample size than a rookie having never played a down? its dumb i'm putting this much effort into this argument anyways becuz its never gonna happen. lol Because you are trading two firsts just for the chance to pay this guy like Derek Carr. Why? You can have a QB at the top of the draft who is 4-5 years younger, on a rookie deal, who you get 4 years to evaluate and another option year before you have to decide if he’s worth committing to. It’s great you got to see him for 7 games but 7 TDs and 5 INT isn’t enough for me to give him that much money/cap %/years. It would be enough for me to franchise him if I’m the niners and see what he does next year. But I’m not mortgaging the future for him at this point in time if I’m another team. That is just my opinion, clearly you have seen enough from him to do so, and that’s yours. Edited February 8, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-gm-reveals-what-bill-belichick-told-him-before-making-the-garoppolo-trade/ These dont look like comments of a GM who is not keeping Garoppolo. So that means Lynch is just gonna give Garoppolo whatever money he asks for? That contract was gonna be difficult before the presence of Cousins on the free agency market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: So that means Lynch is just gonna give Garoppolo whatever money he asks for? That contract was gonna be difficult before the presence of Cousins on the free agency market. Not necessarily. Garoppolo could very well understand that not maxing out on a contract gives the team the ability to bolster the roster to make it more competitive for a longer period of time much in the same way Brady has done with New England. Note that Garropolo has the same agent as Brady so the precedent is there. Edited February 8, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 and then there is this https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/04/report-49ers-nearing-long-term-contract-with-jimmy-garoppolo/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 First: There is zero percent chance of this happening IMO. But, if you really look at it then it’s possible SF could really come out big here if they felt Cousins was at least close to Jimmy G in terms of a QB. If they did really feel good about Cousins, they could flip Jimmy to Bills for both first round picks and maybe even a player or additional pick. Bills should absolutely do that deal if it was available (which it won’t be IMO) and SF still is set at QB and get more assets to invest heavy in adding more talent to the D and O. But I would take Jimmy G over Cousins and after the impact he had on the team, locker room, etc I have zero belief the Niners will part with Jimmy for anything. But it is intriguing when you say: Would you rather have Jimmy G or Cousins and 2 first round picks? Especially if you speculate they will cost similar amounts of money. I would take Jimmy, but I can see how someone might go the other way and take Cousins and 2 firsts, i just don’t believe the Niners have the interest in that side. 1 minute ago, IgotBILLStopay said: and then there is this https://ninerswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/04/report-49ers-nearing-long-term-contract-with-jimmy-garoppolo/ Exactly, and when you factor they have 9 picks in the draft and a massive amount of cap room, the idea of a Jimmy G trade gets even more ridiculous than it already was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Do we really want a QB named "Jimmy"? Can we change it to "Jim" when we get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: First: There is zero percent chance of this happening IMO. But, if you really look at it then it’s possible SF could really come out big here if they felt Cousins was at least close to Jimmy G in terms of a QB. If they did really feel good about Cousins, they could flip Jimmy to Bills for both first round picks and maybe even a player or additional pick. Bills should absolutely do that deal if it was available (which it won’t be IMO) and SF still is set at QB and get more assets to invest heavy in adding more talent to the D and O. But I would take Jimmy G over Cousins and after the impact he had on the team, locker room, etc I have zero belief the Niners will part with Jimmy for anything. But it is intriguing when you say: Would you rather have Jimmy G or Cousins and 2 first round picks? Especially if you speculate they will cost similar amounts of money. I would take Jimmy, but I can see how someone might go the other way and take Cousins and 2 firsts, i just don’t believe the Niners have the interest in that side. yes the two first rounders with the franchise tag are what makes this so enticing to a GM. Even if Jimmy G was a bit better than Cousins - getting Cousins (for similar money) + 2 first rounders should be tempting. I still dont understand how Redskins enter into it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Not necessarily. Garoppolo could very well understand that not maxing out on a contract gives the team the ability to bolster the roster to make it more competitive for a longer period of time much in the same way Brady has done with New England. Thats hard to sell when the 49ers have $110m in cap space. It'll take the 49ers years to spend that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, PIZ said: Do we really want a QB named "Jimmy"? Can we change it to "Jim" when we get him? I hate that too. Always thought Johnny Manziel should have removed the baby name too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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