Bangarang Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Looked back at the game. First drive we scored. Second drive, penalty and it's 2nd and 14, tipped pass then 3rd and 14. Third drive McCoy runs for -5, Taylor completes a 6 yard pass and then Thompson runs for -5. Fourth drive Taylor runs for 7 on a second and 9 then Thompson drops that beautiful deep throw on 3rd and 2. Next drive Taylor hits a 9 yard pass on 2nd and 10 then Tolbert gets stuffed on 3rd and 1. That's just the first half. Someone tell me where Taylor could have done something different. So you’re going with the Tyrod did everything he possibly could argument huh? Bold strategy. Best of luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Looked back at the game. First drive we scored. Second drive, penalty and it's 2nd and 14, tipped pass then 3rd and 14. Third drive McCoy runs for -5, Taylor completes a 6 yard pass and then Thompson runs for -5. Fourth drive Taylor runs for 7 on a second and 9 then Thompson drops that beautiful deep throw on 3rd and 2. Next drive Taylor hits a 9 yard pass on 2nd and 10 then Tolbert gets stuffed on 3rd and 1. That's just the first half. Someone tell me where Taylor could have done something different. Mind you I don't think Taylor is "franchise" or something but if you don't have a decent understanding of where things are going wrong it's hard to claim you know how to fix them. At the moment I think Dennison sucks. That's our biggest problem. Sure 1st drive make an accurate throw and get the TD. Now those other drives you mention the throws go look at the other routes instead of reading the play by play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 It's not a strategy ............ look at it. Tipped passes, penalties, negative runs, and drops. Not a whole hell of a lot to work with. Don't confuse this with saying he played a great game. I wish he had squezed in that first throw to KB in the end zone ect but that said people get all crazy when you say it's not all him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I get that the poster doesn't want to bring up Tyrod's shortcomings but there is a point that I think Dennison is a horrible OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Maine-iac said: It's not a strategy ............ look at it. Tipped passes, penalties, negative runs, and drops. Not a whole hell of a lot to work with. Don't confuse this with saying he played a great game. I wish he had squezed in that first throw to KB in the end zone ect but that said people get all crazy when you say it's not all him. He played like absolute trash today and there is no way to spin that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Sure 1st drive make an accurate throw and get the TD. Now those other drives you mention the throws go look at the other routes instead of reading the play by play The other drives, 3 out of 5, we ran on 3rd and got stuffed or someone dropped a pass. So it's easy to say he didn't miss a throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 TT is holding onto the ball too long............he needs to get it out within 2-3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He played like absolute trash today and there is no way to spin that. Show me. I watched the game. Didn't think he played great but certainly lack of running game and drops hurt. Line can't block and the play calling sucked. Seems like a suck hat trick. I'm not trying to spin it that he played great but you sure as hell can't point at him and say the problems start and end there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Maine-iac said: Show me. I watched the game. Didn't think he played great but certainly lack of running game and drops hurt. Line can't block and the play calling sucked. Seems like a suck hat trick. I'm not trying to spin it that he played great but you sure as hell can't point at him and say the problems start and end there. Ha ha ha line was real good in pass pro today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: He played like absolute trash today and there is no way to spin that. He was awful, but so was the play calling. Where's Cadet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: TT is holding onto the ball too long............he needs to get it out within 2-3 seconds. Yes and no. They are looking for these short passes. Setting up short clogging the run, stopping the scrambling and making short passes harder. We actually need to start hitting deeper routes but the line can't block long enough to do that without negative plays like sacks. We aren't creative enough with the screen game to beat it that way either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, JM2009 said: He was awful, but so was the play calling. Where's Cadet? Deactivated wasnt process ready yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: I get that the poster doesn't want to bring up Tyrod's shortcomings but there is a point that I think Dennison is a horrible OC. Or is Dennisons play calling handicapped by horrible QB play. Maybe if the QB checked out of bad and into better plays at the line, Dennison would look better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, PeterGriffin said: Or is Dennisons play calling handicapped by horrible QB play. Maybe if the QB checked out of bad and into better plays at the line, Dennison would look better. No it is never a QB handcuffs a OC. Always the other way around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Show me. I watched the game. Didn't think he played great but certainly lack of running game and drops hurt. Line can't block and the play calling sucked. Seems like a suck hat trick. I'm not trying to spin it that he played great but you sure as hell can't point at him and say the problems start and end there. Show you what? That he played like trash? You need me to do that despite you saying you watched the game? Do you not have eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Bangarang said: Show you what? That he played like trash? You need me to do that despite you saying you watched the game? Do you not have eyes? What's the matter ........... should be easy for you. I'll even spot you the first two throws to KB. After that though, tell me which drives did Taylor kill with horrible QB play. Again I watched the game. I guess I missed it ........... but here's your chance. Tell me about it instead of just the token he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Sure 1st drive make an accurate throw and get the TD. Now those other drives you mention the throws go look at the other routes instead of reading the play by play In all honest and this is not to defend Tyrod Taylor He could have been accurate on those early passes to KB and he scores that td and I think we STILL lose this game......the saints were literally walking in for their touchdowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: What's the matter ........... should be easy for you. I'll even spot you the first two throws to KB. After that though, tell me which drives did Taylor kill with horrible QB play. Again I watched the game. I guess I missed it ........... but here's your chance. Tell me about it instead of just the token he sucks. 3rd and 12. Tolbert for 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, John from Hemet said: In all honest and this is not to defend Tyrod Taylor He could have been accurate on those early passes to KB and he scores that td and I think we STILL lose this game......the saints were literally walking in for their touchdowns Ooo i agree. They could have scored that first drive and was going to lose this game. I said that as much 9 days ago this was going to be a loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Maine-iac said: Again I watched the game. I guess I missed it ........... No kidding. Tyrod avatar - check Blames everyone but Tyrod - check but tell me more about how you watched the game and he did everything he possibly could. Give me a break. If you need me to explain how he was bad today then you aren’t ready to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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