MAJBobby Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: BB denying the trade for selfish reasons, instead of putting the team first...I can understand why Kraft would be upset. The Other team he has a Huge Grudge with and will never do what he thinks will help them in the long run is the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Why would New England trade him in the division? For the same reason the Steelers wouldn't hesitate to trade with the Browns? Sometimes Bills fans have a rather warped idea of who the Pats consider competition. They wouldn't trade him to the Broncos; Bills? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 I see him being slightly less than Kirk Cousins, which is what I call a tease quarterback. He will put up some good numbers at times but you can't count on him, will have horrendous games, too, and will very likely never be your franchise guy. Play well enough that you cannot just release him or get anything in a trade. And your coaches think they can coach him up but they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 This is some of the most trashy threads I have ever witnessed. You realize 49ers just gave a hight pick for him. Why would they trade him. You are a troll trhough and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 ....trade based on WHAT, his proven track record?....weren't Kolb and Schaub highly coveted "must haves" based on their limited body of backup work?.....and BOTH cashed in on UFA deals only to do exactly what?.......Kolb's five time concussed noodle before the "Great Mat Attack" and Schaub redefining the "Pick Six Syndrome" are "infatuations gone bad"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I see him being slightly less than Kirk Cousins, which is what I call a tease quarterback. He will put up some good numbers at times but you can't count on him, will have horrendous games, too, and will very likely never be your franchise guy. Play well enough that you cannot just release him or get anything in a trade. And your coaches think they can coach him up but they can't. I'd say that's the most likely scenario. But the Niners did the right thing in my mind: they went with the "50 % chance he's another Kirk Cousins; 30% chance he's much better than that; 20% chance he's a bust" guy rather than the known "tease" quantity of the actual Kirk Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 52 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Patriots really liked him and I doubt they would have traded him to the Bills. Exactly. You don't see many trades happen within a division, for good reason. Dareus: another division. LT Brown: AFC t NFC Garoppolo: AFC to NFC Ajayi: AFC to NFC Benjamin: NFC to AFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) JG is better than Cousins imo...quicker release, stronger arm. Edited November 5, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: JG is better than Cousins imo...quicker release, stronger arm. ...Cousins redefines "extortion" and "mediocrity breeding contempt"....BUT it couldn't happen to a nicer fellow than Boy Danny Snyder......hopes he tags 'em again for 44 mil........ Edited November 5, 2017 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: JG is better than Cousins imo...quicker release, stronger arm. That's a pretty bold statement considering JG hasn't even attempted 100 passes in his NFL career and Cousins has, at times, set the league on fire; throwing for 11,000yds and 67TD in 2.5 seasons. Give me Kirk, who is still 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bobobonators said: That's a pretty bold statement considering JG hasn't even attempted 100 passes in his NFL career and Cousins has, at times, set the league on fire; throwing for 11,000yds and 67TD in 2.5 seasons. Give me Kirk, who is still 29. Why do anything if it's not bold...Cousins has reached his ceiling imo...Garrapolo has a chance to be great...heck, i would take Tyrod over Cousins. Edited November 5, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Why do anything if it's not bold...Cousins has reached his ceiling imo...Garrapolo has a chance to be great. That's fair. You may be right. Cousins to me is already an elite passer; his numbers prove it. JG is only 3 years younger, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Not saying they would have, but I would have offered our 1st rounder from the Chiefs...maybe they would have taken the higher pick, maybe not. Considering there is a very good chance the 1st rnd Chiefs pick and 2nd rnd 49ers picks may be back to back or one pick between them it is likely Pats would not have accepted the Chiefs pick for Graps considering also they do not want Buffalo to have him in division. Edited November 6, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 told ya...this guy is gonna is gonna be the shizzle...when this guy breaks out, everyone will be like Kirk who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 6 hours ago, JinxedBill1 said: I wouldn't have. You only have a limited amount of tape for him. I'm not convinced he is a good player and not a product of an elite system in NE Exactly. I don't understand the fascination with a guy who has played all of six quarters and will require a substantial amount of money to sign. Would rather draft a cheaper alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 That would be 8 quarters. He played 1/2 game week 17 a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Niners are in kind of a weird situation here - you're 0-8, losing today, keeping pace game-for-game with the Browns for the #1 pick. Play Jimmy G. and you'll probably win a couple games even if he isn't that great (because that's how rough CJ Beathard has been). But you want to see if Jimmy G. is worth that big contract extension you're contemplating. Or do you keep him sitting so that he remains a largely unknown quantity to hold the bidding down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Why does the name Matt Cassel come to mind? Only Cassel had a larger body of work to evaluate when he was traded. Have a hard time buying into Pats** QB castoffs; too many expect NE backup QB's will have Tom Brady magic. Jimmy G played the first two games, and yeah was 2-0, but very lucky. Pats** should have lost the first game, but Arizona couldn't execute the field goal snap at the end of the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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