Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 After wins we do the game balls, I thought it would be fun (or not fun) to divide up the blame after a loss. The point isnt to necessarily what was worst (tackling) but what most impacted the outcome (offensive coaching and line play). Hopefully, we dont have too many more of these. Ill go first: - Rico 30% - OL 25% - DL 25% - Tackling 10% - McDermott 5% - Turnovers 5% So from my standpoint the offense shoulders the majority of the blame. They were dominated up front, had no answers. The game plan was not good. The pass rush was nonexistent on the other side of the ball and tackling bad. The Bills werent prepared and made some mistakes but I cut them some slack on the short week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Mr. Offensive Line Coach That guy needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) So we get torched for 200 yards on the ground and assign top blame on the offensive coordinator lol. Edited November 3, 2017 by Woodman19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 So we get torched for 200 yards on the ground and assign top blame on the offensive coordinator lol.The DL was almost as high. You are entitled to your opinion. That was the point of the thread. Mr. Offensive Line Coach That guy needs to go. Yeah, I kind of lumped it under Rico but Castillo shares a giant portion of that 30%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 DL 25% TT 25% TO's 25% Dennison 13% OL 12% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdogtim Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 It seemed to be a somewhat heartless effort. Guys just seemed to be going through the motions. To me, the blame for that goes collectively to the leaders, which would be: McDermott Kyle Williams Tyrod Taylor The guys charged with holding people accountable did not do their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 It seemed to be a somewhat heartless effort. Guys just seemed to be going through the motions. To me, the blame for that goes collectively to the leaders, which would be: McDermott Kyle Williams Tyrod Taylor The guys charged with holding people accountable did not do their jobs. Thats an interesting way to look at it. I think there is some validity there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 100% on the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 DL 25% TT 25% TO's 25% Dennison 13% OL 12% this speaks volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 this speaks volumes Ha Ha, yeah I thought that I was going to get crushed for only having the OL at 25%. They were thoroughly atrocious yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I would say 50% the Jets D-Line, 25% Bills receivers/TE (for the fumbles) and 25% on poor tackling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Ha Ha, yeah I thought that I was going to get crushed for only having the OL at 25%. They were thoroughly atrocious yesterday. They were not good but in the moments they did well, someone else failed to step up. Honestly, you could probably give every unit the same share of the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Ha Ha, yeah I thought that I was going to get crushed for only having the OL at 25%. They were thoroughly atrocious yesterday. says so much about that poster that I already had come to know anyways..... jets run d has been awful all year and we couldn't run. jets had 11 sacks ALL FREAKING SEASON and the pocket routinely COLLAPSED around our qb. easily the worst performance I've seen from them in a long time. that was a bad jets defense that absolutely MAN HANDLED our guys up front. that being said. everyone sucked. just a complete implosion. but unlike most around here, the sky isn't falling for me. big game at home next week. a winnable one I think. Edited November 3, 2017 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 It sure did feel like the Bills were playing a "pro-Bowl" type game - just going through the motions. The O line SUCKED and the Defense apparently, thought the game was not until Sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 It sure did feel like the Bills were playing a "pro-Bowl" type game - just going through the motions. The O line SUCKED and the Defense apparently, thought the game was not until Sunday... When you are physically dominated it usually looks like the other side isn't trying. Don't confuse results with effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 They were not good but in the moments they did well, someone else failed to step up. Honestly, you could probably give every unit the same share of the blame.What moments did they do well? They were DOMINATED from the start. says so much about that poster that I already had come to know anyways..... jets run d has been awful all year and we couldn't run. jets had 11 sacks ALL FREAKING SEASON and the pocket routinely COLLAPSED around our qb. easily the worst performance I've seen from them in a long time. that was a bad jets defense that absolutely MAN HANDLED our guys up front. that being said. everyone sucked. just a complete implosion. but unlike most around here, the sky isn't falling for me. big game at home next week. a winnable one I think. If they win next week they are back on track IMO. It is kind of a must win to me though. They needed at least 1 of these 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 50% McDermott 50% Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 When you are physically dominated it usually looks like the other side isn't trying. Don't confuse results with effort. OH PLEASE - Our defense was virtually unrecognizable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 After wins we do the game balls, I thought it would be fun (or not fun) to divide up the blame after a loss. The point isnt to necessarily what was worst (tackling) but what most impacted the outcome (offensive coaching and line play). Hopefully, we dont have too many more of these. Ill go first: - Rico 30% - OL 25% - DL 25% - Tackling 10% - McDermott 5% - Turnovers 5% So from my standpoint the offense shoulders the majority of the blame. They were dominated up front, had no answers. The game plan was not good. The pass rush was nonexistent on the other side of the ball and tackling bad. The Bills werent prepared and made some mistakes but I cut them some slack on the short week. I think the Bills offense was outschemed from play one onward, so I can't argue with this. I actually thought Taylor played well overall, akin to the besieged troops at the Alamo. He had no chance on so many of those sacks, and many of those sacks were a product of a better scheme on the defensive side. Dennison did not attack the five-man fronts with quick passing designs until way too late. I'd put turnovers higher because they arguably cost the Bills 6 points on offense and 7 points on defense (they lost by 13 points). The first two fumbles were lost in FG territory, and Taylor's fumble (essentially garbage time, but still) led to 7 points for the Jets. By the way, Leonard Williams is a monster. He is the best player in that draft as judged per the position he plays (that is, I'd still take a qb over him): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_NFL_Draft. He is basically unblockable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) DL 25% TT 25% TO's 25% Dennison 13% OL 12% Taylor more than twice as responsible as the OL? Laughable. If only the Bills had Trevor Siemian (who could be the next Montana) last night. Edited November 3, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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