This Thread Is For Obama Administration Misdeeds And Lies

[row_33]

22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Obama ran one of the most ethical and law abiding administrations ever. 

 

 

Trump is a criminal boss running a racket out of the oval office (hush money, payments from corporations, threats against American companies, payments from foreign nations, election interference from foreign governments undermining our democracy) . And the Republican Party is backing him to the hilt with members of the party trying to undermine (Obstruct justice?) the investigation and no one in the party trying to stop this. Shameful! 

 

the response to Obama preening and peacocking over his admin's lack of crimes and misdemeanours was lengthy and quite funny

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[LB3]

I watched The Final Year last night. It chronicles Obama's final year in office and highlights his "accomplishments". If you can stomach the fluff, it ends up being unintentionally hilarious.

Edited May 24, 2018 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

I watched The Final Year last night

It films Obama's final year in office and highlights is his "accomplishments". If you can stomach the fluff, it ends up being unintentionally hilarious.

Its kind of funny how Trump has gotten as little done with the same do nothing Congress as Obama did. At least Trump got Paul Ryan to leave, that's an accomplishment that will help America 

[DC Tom]

42 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

I watched The Final Year last night. It chronicles Obama's final year in office and highlights his "accomplishments". If you can stomach the fluff, it ends up being unintentionally hilarious.

 

It was absolutely atrocious.  

[row_33]

51 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

I watched The Final Year last night. It chronicles Obama's final year in office and highlights his "accomplishments". If you can stomach the fluff, it ends up being unintentionally hilarious.

 

how so?

[DC Tom]

2 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

how so?

 

On 5/21/2018 at 9:21 PM, DC Tom said:

I'm catching the tail end of "The Final Year" on HBO right now, just as they're recapping the 2016 election. watching all the Obama staffers break down as they realize "their" country is being "taken away" from them by a "disaster" the likes of which hasn't been seen "since the Civil War."  Basically, a whole load of condescending bull **** about how Trump lacks the intelligence and ability to make the decisions necessary to maintain Obama's legacy.

 

I am so glad these condescending !@#$s lost.

 

Just easer to quote it than rewrite it.

[row_33]

but those people don't see how wrong they were, and that Trump has been a great President

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

A great president?

 

A guy who takes credit for everything good and blames everyone else when things go bad

 

 

new executive orders to make it easier to fire people and minimize the impact of unions in the Fed. 

 

Now go ahead and insult me.  It’s ok.  

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNIUoXcglbbjIABw5x.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--/RV=2/RE=1527374488/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.chicagotribune.com%2fnews%2fnationworld%2fpolitics%2fct-trump-executive-orders-public-unions-20180525-story%2camp.html/RK=2/RS=FOEqk8KHA6znaUcc2fHtRvPOFk4-

Edited May 26, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

A great president?

 

A guy who takes credit for everything good and blames everyone else when things go bad

 

 

Nobody here ever argues that Obama was a great president.

[TakeYouToTasker]

2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

A great president?

 

A guy who takes credit for everything good and blames everyone else when things go bad

 

 

new executive orders to make it easier to fire people and minimize the impact of unions in the Fed. 

 

Now go ahead and insult me.  It’s ok.  

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrNIUoXcglbbjIABw5x.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--/RV=2/RE=1527374488/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.chicagotribune.com%2fnews%2fnationworld%2fpolitics%2fct-trump-executive-orders-public-unions-20180525-story%2camp.html/RK=2/RS=FOEqk8KHA6znaUcc2fHtRvPOFk4-

 

It should be easier to fire people under federal employment, and labor unions should be illegal within the government (a point FDR agreed with).

 

It's funny you'd try to argue President Trump isn't doing a good job, while listing excellent achievments as examples.

[Deranged Rhino]

[Chandemonium]

31 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

If this does end up being worse than watergate and viewed as such by the public at large, can we stop the cultural practice of naming scandals (fill-in-the-blank)-gate? That would be one worthwhile accomplishment for the Obama legacy. 

[Nanker]

Sure. Let’s call every government scandal as an Obamination

[Nanker]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except it happened in 2014 while your hero B.O. was in office.

So of course, you deleted your tweet. 

If you like you hypocrisy, you can keep your hypocrisy. 

[Deranged Rhino]

33 minutes ago, Nanker said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except it happened in 2014 while your hero B.O. was in office.

So of course, you deleted your tweet. 

If you like you hypocrisy, you can keep your hypocrisy. 

 

Watching this evolve and then explode in the faces of the projectionists has been hilarious to witness over the past few days. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

51 minutes ago, Nanker said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Except it happened in 2014 while your hero B.O. was in office.

So of course, you deleted your tweet. 

If you like you hypocrisy, you can keep your hypocrisy. 

AZ Central (Arizona Republic) has it pinned:
 

 

[boyst]

It's still heartbreaking. These children will becomes victims of all that's wrong with the world and be easy pickings for groups like boy scouts [MS-13], community welfare programs [Catholic church], and organizations specializing in the mentally ill [the Democratic Party]

[B-Man]

Pundits and the media have conflated several stories about immigration — two of them years old — into a full-fledged freakout over the treatment of illegal immigrant children and during exactly whose administration those pictures of cages and the “prison bus” were taken.

 

In short, we’ve got an ACLU report on alleged incidents of child abuse, the photo of children in cages, and the photo of the “prison bus” (which reportedly was used for educational field trips). Thankfully, tweeter @AG_Conservative created a thread to sort things out a bit. Have a look:

 

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(((AG)))@AG_Conservative

 

Time for some facts. There are 3 separate immigration stories that are seemingly being conflated by the media & pundits.

Story 1: ACLU report on migrants children being abused.

Story 2: Feds lost track of ~1500 minor immigrants.

Story 3: Separations of families at the border.

10:37 AM - May 28, 2018

 

 

 

Story 1: This story is based on an ACLU report that covers 2009-2014. It has nothing to do with the Trump admin or separating families as it mostly relates to unaccompanied minors at the border. However, the abuses were serious and systematic. Very possible many still occurring.

 

 

Story 2: This is being covered as a scandal, but I do not believe it is one. Essentially thousands of unaccompanied minors were processed and then released to family members or others in the US. When HHS tried to check on them later, ~1500/8000 didn't respond to the survey.

 

There are quite a few reasons why the adults taking care of them might ignore an HHS follow up. That doesn't meant they are lost or something bad happened. The only alternative to keep track of them would be for us to keep them detained, which pro-immigration advocates oppose.

 

 

Story 3: Many families crossing the border, including those seeking asylum, are now being separated as a deterrent. The reason for this is that the Trump admin has created a policy of referring EVERY illegal border crossing for federal prosecution (even asylum seekers).

 

Is it true that the Obama admin never separated families? No, Obama's admin did this too in some cases, but it happens way more often with the new policy. The Obama admin had several camps where they would detain families together while their cases were being processed.

 

Is this an effective deterrent? Evidence suggests that it has deterred some people, but that doesn't make it a good policy. There is a tough balance between deterrence and being humane, especially when kids are involved. Asylum seekers should be kept together imo.

 

 

 

To conclude: These are 3 very different stories. All of them are complex, but people who try to blend them all together or suggest they are unique to the Trump administration are either being dishonest or ignorant.

The media needs to do a better job explaining them.

 

 

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[Buffalo_Gal]

25 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The media needs to do a better job explaining them.

 

Ok, that is funny.

"It's for the children!" has always worked in the past. It may very well work this time too. I do feel sorry for young children separated from their parents for any reason short of abuse.  Be combining, meshing, and lying about the these children's situations, the press thinks they have a win. What they have once again failed to realize is that  "the other side" now fights back, and is pointing the lies with facts. I am wondering when (if) it will dawn on the press that they are hated as vile hacks? Doubling and tripling down on past lies hasn't worked, so let's do it again! and again! and again!