Ralonzo Posted July 20 Posted July 20 (edited) On 7/17/2025 at 8:14 AM, muppy said: muppy is doing the happy dance hula today folks. Greetings and please enjoy one of my favorite female artists Period. Sheryl Crow everyday is a winding road Ever looked into Kevin Gilbert? Her boyfriend at the time and "member" of the Tuesday Music Club, which had a famous crack-up over whose songwriting credits were really whose on Crow's debut album. Died too soon, or who knows what might have been. The Toy Matinee debut sounded like they were gonna be the Steely Dan of the 90's... Edited July 20 by Ralonzo 1 Quote
Pete Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Dead blow with the life from the low I'll be massive conquistador Give me sword, show me the door Metal heavy, shocked at the core Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Pressurize, neutralize Deep fried, gimme some more Space flunky, four on the floor Fortified with the liquor store This one's down, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Shrunken head I love to adore B-movie, gimme some gore Gimme toro, gimme some more B-movie, gimme some gore Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more Gimme toro, gimme some more 1 Quote
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Ralonzo Posted July 20 Posted July 20 Just following up with one more morsel of the prodigious output of Kevin Gilbert. Basically he recorded this in one night trying to get it included before the deadline on the Zep tribute album Encomium - they rejected it because, who the hell is Kevin Gilbert. Anyway, we come to another guy basically nobody knows by the name of Pat Leonard. You know his music of course - in more places than you'd even imagine. There's a parallel where there was also a woman in the biz involved who got a helpful push to the top - for Gilbert it was Sheryl Crow, who was invited to Gilbert's Tuesday Night Music Club to help deal with her "unreleasable" 1992 original debut album <-- (in case @muppy hasn't come across it yet), and to drum up some new tracks for another attempt. With Leonard he was tasked to push the career of one Madonna Ciccone as a producer and songwriter. Leonard's influence took her from bouncy bubblegum to "smart-pop" on what would become the acme of her ascendancy, True Blue and Like A Prayer. Quote The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall – that's what I grew up with and that's what I dreamed of doing one day. I was a big Gentle Giant fan. I was a huge Jethro Tull fan. But I had to feed my children and heat my house, so I wrote some songs with a little girl who became extremely popular. It's really that simple. While not a completely sad Brill Building experience, at least the Toy Matinee project was Warner's gift to Leonard for earning them like half billion dollars in the 80's, and was intended to be a studio project only with Gilbert and session snipers. Both fans of prog, Beatles, and absolute fonts of "smart-pop," it turned out so impressively that Gilbert wanted to take it on the road, which Leonard didn't. Gilbert cobbled up a rotating touring band (including Crow on keyboards), but still managed to get dropped by Reprise. But I digress... Patrick Leonard has scored soundtracks, written musicals, had his own side projects and worked with a ridiculous number of artists as a writer and producer. And finally dropped an album in 2024... and you've still probably never heard his name. <steps off soapbox> 1 Quote
T&C Posted July 20 Posted July 20 @Ralonzo What's the last time you listened to this gem? Highly recommend for everyone.. 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted July 20 Posted July 20 23 minutes ago, T&C said: @Ralonzo What's the last time you listened to this gem? Highly recommend for everyone.. Apart from my Toy Matinee/Third Matinee (Pat Leonard & Richard Page of Mr. Mister) bender, from that era, I've been mothdrawn to David LaFlamme/It's A Beautiful Day lately... something more SoCal than Britain going on in my resonances lately. 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 20 Posted July 20 18 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Ever looked into Kevin Gilbert? Her boyfriend at the time and "member" of the Tuesday Music Club, which had a famous crack-up over whose songwriting credits were really whose on Crow's debut album. Died too soon, or who knows what might have been. The Toy Matinee debut sounded like they were gonna be the Steely Dan of the 90's... no but I can now thank you 🙂 1 Quote
T&C Posted July 20 Posted July 20 23 minutes ago, Ralonzo said: Apart from my Toy Matinee/Third Matinee (Pat Leonard & Richard Page of Mr. Mister) bender, from that era, I've been mothdrawn to David LaFlamme/It's A Beautiful Day lately... something more SoCal than Britain going on in my resonances lately. 1 Quote
SinceThe70s Posted July 21 Posted July 21 8 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Just following up with one more morsel of the prodigious output of Kevin Gilbert. Basically he recorded this in one night trying to get it included before the deadline on the Zep tribute album Encomium - they rejected it because, who the hell is Kevin Gilbert. Anyway, we come to another guy basically nobody knows by the name of Pat Leonard. You know his music of course - in more places than you'd even imagine. There's a parallel where there was also a woman in the biz involved who got a helpful push to the top - for Gilbert it was Sheryl Crow, who was invited to Gilbert's Tuesday Night Music Club to help deal with her "unreleasable" 1992 original debut album <-- (in case @muppy hasn't come across it yet), and to drum up some new tracks for another attempt. With Leonard he was tasked to push the career of one Madonna Ciccone as a producer and songwriter. Leonard's influence took her from bouncy bubblegum to "smart-pop" on what would become the acme of her ascendancy, True Blue and Like A Prayer. While not a completely sad Brill Building experience, at least the Toy Matinee project was Warner's gift to Leonard for earning them like half billion dollars in the 80's, and was intended to be a studio project only with Gilbert and session snipers. Both fans of prog, Beatles, and absolute fonts of "smart-pop," it turned out so impressively that Gilbert wanted to take it on the road, which Leonard didn't. Gilbert cobbled up a rotating touring band (including Crow on keyboards), but still managed to get dropped by Reprise. But I digress... Patrick Leonard has scored soundtracks, written musicals, had his own side projects and worked with a ridiculous number of artists as a writer and producer. And finally dropped an album in 2024... and you've still probably never heard his name. <steps off soapbox> Is it just me or does the Kashmir cover take on a James Bond vibe for a bit about halfway through? Quote
SinceThe70s Posted July 21 Posted July 21 On 7/11/2025 at 2:15 PM, Figster said: Pioneer greats Never enough Motorhead in my eyes. Here's one from (I think) the first album without Fast Eddie: 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 On 7/20/2025 at 10:22 PM, SinceThe70s said: Is it just me or does the Kashmir cover take on a James Bond vibe for a bit about halfway through? I think it's just that instead of the slow drone he takes it double-time and makes it kinda metal. Speaking of metal, obviously everyone is aware of Ozzy's death. The first time anyone realistically could have had a chance to hear Osbourne was on the debut Black Sabbath release in 1970, a single covering a track by American band Crow, "Evil Woman." The Crow version peaked on Billboard in the top 20 in 1969. While this isn't that, it mates some of the only existing footage of the band Crow to the audio release they were performing... Take some of the jams out of it, and the structure is awfully similar to "All Right Now", released a couple months later by Free, but sadly eliminating that chugging bass line and hammond... 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted July 23 Posted July 23 So one of the times Ozzy was kicked out of Black Sabbath was in 1977 after missing a gig iirc. The band moved on and was actually laying down tracks with Dave Walker of Savoy Brown. Gotta say, it wasn't a great fit, at least not compared to Ozzy. Or Dio, or Glenn Hughes, or Ron Keel, or... anyway, I guess the band thought same and eventually Osbourne was brought back for what became the Never Say Die album... Some of the cooler stuff early on with Sabbath was when the band was playing gigs with tracks still in formation before being committed to album. Note the alternate lyrics on this 1970 gig in Paris, some are moved around, some were replaced... Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 24 Posted July 24 Almost approaching 30th year of Jerry Garcia's death. The 'Days Between'.... August 1st & August 9th, the 8 days between his birth & death... "We're like licorice. Not everyone likes licorice, but the people who like licorice really, really like licorice." ~Jerry Garcia NOT sure if I posted this. Franklin's tower, 5/9/77....BFLo Memorial Aud: Clicking on all cylinders that year... Even when Garcia screwed up lyrics. Every song is a new song! The story behind it: "As you probably know, Robert Hunter has a great of love of American History. The song is about events during the American revolution. 'Franklin' refers to Benjamin Franklin. The 'Bell' in the tower is the Liberty Bell. Casting large metal objects is a complicated process. Casting bells is additonally complicated by the fact that bells must be able to withstand the stress of ringing, and they must produce a good tone. The Liberty Bell was not only very large, but it needed to ring loudly and clearly enough to be heard around the world. This was pushing the limits of 18th century technology. As you probably know, Benjamin Franklin was not only a philosopher and statesman, he was an inventor. He was involved in the design of the Liberty Bell in the following way: Franklin postulated that a process which he called "dewing" could be used to improve the production process of large bells. Dewing basically involves exposing the freshly cast bell to large quantities of steam while the bell is still hot. The steam causes a rapid cooling, producing droplet of 'dew' on the bell. After the dew is formed, the bell is rolled between large cotton sheets. He described this process as "rolling away the dew". Unfortunately, Franklin's contempories had a very hard time understanding his technology. He showed them sample bells, asking him to simply look at the results without trying to understand the process. This was when he uttered the now famous quote, "if you get confused, listen to the music play." In the end, Franklin couldn't convince the foundry to use his dewing process. Instead they used an alternate process developed by a Frenchman named Simon Legree (who eventually turned out to be a British agent). Simon's process involved planting small ice crystals (seeds) into the metal while the bell was being cast. As we all know, the Liberty Bell didn't last very long. I believe it had one good ring, but you can't really tell because it was so long ago. Apparently the one time it was rung was during a storm. After ringing, the famous crack developed in the side of the bell and the wind blew through the crack. They tried ringing the bell again, but the only sound was of the wind blowing through the crack. Benjamin Franklin was understandably disgusted. When asked later about the incident, his only comment was "They planted ice, so they harvested wind." The ice refers to an alternate dewing process they used at the suggestion of a rival inventor (I'll spare you the details, but he turned out to be quite a Tory). The wind, of course, is the lack of sound from subseqent ringings." https://people.well.com/conf/deadsongs.vue/topics/77/Franklin-s-Tower-page01.html Quote
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