Deranged Rhino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, peace out said: This Corsi guy is quite the laugh He was supposed to deliver Stone, but he failed. Mueller will make him pay for it. Both Stone and Corsi are bad actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Popadopolous reporting to jail today. That's five (?) convictions or guilty pleas for Mueller....so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Podesta name checked again: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Trump ranting like a child again - did he forget Podesta's case was referred by Mueller to New York State prosecutors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, peace out said: Trump ranting like a child again - did he forget Podesta's case was referred by Mueller to New York State prosecutors? Only FARA charges for the Podesta Group as a whole. Individual charges, and sedition, have not been referred to NYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Only FARA charges for the Podesta Group as a whole. Individual charges, and sedition, have not been referred to NYS. Can you link to the bolded? Every link I can find quotes the following or something close to it... Former lobbyist Tony Podesta, Mercury Public Affairs partner and former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig are all under federal investigation by prosecutors for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, multiple sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News on Tuesday. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/former-lobbyist-tony-podesta-others-under-investigation-federal-prosecutors-over-n896396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, peace out said: Can you link to the bolded? Every link I can find quotes the following or something close to it... Former lobbyist Tony Podesta, Mercury Public Affairs partner and former Minnesota Republican Rep. Vin Weber and former Obama White House Counsel Greg Craig are all under federal investigation by prosecutors for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, multiple sources with knowledge of the matter told NBC News on Tuesday. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/former-lobbyist-tony-podesta-others-under-investigation-federal-prosecutors-over-n896396 It's in your link. Look at the headline. Podesta Group and Mercury (who were in the Manafort indictments) were referred for FARA. "... characterized the investigation as looking into whether lobbyists and operatives failed to register their work as foreign agents." That does not mean whatsoever Podesta(s) aren't/can't be investigated for other crimes/offenses by Mueller's probe. And I know for certain they are still under SC investigation. FARA is the least serious crime they could face from the evidence we know of in open source, let alone the evidence that we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: And I know for certain they are still under SC investigation. Say hi to Mueller for me the next time you guys chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, peace out said: Say hi to Mueller for me the next time you guys chat. Just to point you in the right direction: If they weren't still under SC investigation, you'd be seeing their faces much more on TV. Yet they've been ghosts, even on their own outlets/productions (Ancient Aliens) which have nothing to do with politics/news/current events. JP was not allowed to film new segments on Ancient Aliens as recently as three months ago (which caused production to stall and cost them money/pissed off the producers). Why? Unlike Comey, they have proper attorneys telling them to stay out of the spotlight while the investigation continues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deranged Rhino Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Daily Mail, a UK rag (which makes this all the better), gets this tape and story: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6429935/amp/Trump-rips-Obamas-administration-spying-campaign.html?__twitter_impression=true IMO this is a coordinated release (the audio) with the administration and the start of the public reveal with regards to 44's direct involvement with the illegal surveillance operation. Hate the site and how it's laid out - but worth the read (especially the transcript at the end). CL: Do you think, looking back, that Barack Obama knew what (James) Clapper and (John) Brennan and those guys were doing? The insurance policy to spy on the campaign and come after American citizens? Do you think he was aloof or do you think he knew? THE PRESIDENT: Personally, I think he knew. Yeah. Just remember what they did. Let me put it this way: if the shoe were on the other foot, and the same thing happened to him, it would be treason and they’d be locked up for 100 years. [On several documents pertaining to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation , meetings between the FBI and top members of the Executive Branch are discussed. In most cases, the names of all individuals who attended these meetings are listed and unredacted, with the exception of one. We have several sources who have informed us that this redacted name is President Barack Obama. If these sources are correct, it would mean that Obama had direct knowledge of the surveillance on Donald Trump.] Edited November 27, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, peace out said: How's that work, anyway? Don't they have to prove in court that he lied for it to violate his deal? 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: We have several sources who have informed us that this redacted name is President Barack Obama. If these sources are correct, it would mean that Obama had direct knowledge of the surveillance on Donald Trump.] "Of course he knew. Great statesman that he is, he was trying to protect the country from a Putin-sponsored fascist takeover. Now that he failed, the neo-Nazis in the government are trying to persecute him for it." There is no way any revelation of any sort changes anyone's mind at this late date. The battle lines are already drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 On November 24, 2018 at 8:27 AM, Tiberius said: Key propagandists who was a leader in the Birther movement. Lock him up! He might tell the law if Stone coordinated with Wikileaks to release stolen emails. This is another big deal. Not cool to lock someone up for ideas, even if they turn out wrong. This guy though, at least in that small picture taken from a distance, looks a little like Bob Kraft, so yes. Lock him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I guess they got to Manafort and he decided to live in jail than die in jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: I guess they got to Manafort and he decided to live in jail than die in jail? Are you implying that Manaforts life is under threat while in Federal custody? And one interesting legal tidbit, Law Enforcement is only responsible to protect an individual while in their custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Are you implying that Manaforts life is under threat while in Federal custody? Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 28 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Are you implying that Manaforts life is under threat while in Federal custody? And one interesting legal tidbit, Law Enforcement is only responsible to protect an individual while in their custody. Whitey Bulger says hello ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 oh my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, peace out said: oh my BREAKING NEWS: Manafort does something that wasn't illegal when he wasn't part of the Trump campaign. Hang the bastard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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