BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 @lukeeasterling #NFL #NFLDraft #CFB #Sooners #Bills | Oklahoma QB Baker Mayfield draws comparisons to Tyrod Taylor usat.ly/2swswzz via @thedraftwire https://usat.ly/2swswzz Off topic, but do you know anything about this James Clark fellow (WR) who transferred from OSU to VT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 (edited) Off topic, but do you know anything about this James Clark fellow (WR) who transferred from OSU to VT?yessir! He just graduated, really good kid/character. Couldn't get on the field here, but plenty of talent. Just lost in the shuffle. They helped him find a place to transfer. Edited June 13, 2017 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 yessir! He just graduated, really good kid/character. Couldn't get on the field here, but plenty of talent. Just lost in the shuffle. They helped him find a place to transfer. Well we lost our top 2 receiving targets, so here's to him playing up to his talent level! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Well we lost our top 2 receiving targets, so here's to him playing up to his talent level! Thanks!he is a 4-star, and a speed guy- he ran track as well. I think he will have a shot at being productive, given an opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 ....exactly......Wrecks was a useless buffoon who had to go (NEVER should have been hired)....Marrone, despite his good traits and bad (rook HC though), was offered an extension by Pegula....4 years, $19.6 million.....Whaley and Brandon weren't warm 'n fuzzy with his General Patton like style especially when he wanted them at all TC meetings, some after practice and dinner until 9+PM at night.....so he took the $4 mil and ran.....green or not, McD comes from good pedigree, seems to be no nonsense hard nosed guy interested in winning football games...if not, why would Beane follow him here?.....if both were borderline, why would so many former VP's and Director of Pro Personnel guys have joined Beane's staff?.....Mahomes is not here, is not coming here and maybe Jeffrey should propagate his luvfest on the KC MB.......just plain obnoxious.... I'm counting on Smith getting injured, Mahomes flopping, we get the top pick, All aboard the KC TANK TRAIN, WHOOO WHOOOOOO !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Took a look at half a dozen Josh Allen games yesterday. Nowhere near the finished article yet but there's a few building blocks for 2017. The arm is really impressive. He's got an "effort ball" where he can seriously gun it but it has a lower trajectory, more likely to be tipped. Athletically, he's on the Mariota/Wentz scale. Some similar ball security issues to those guys as well. Nice quick release and willingness to fit tight windows over the middle. Plays off-script and can make plays by extending. Really needs to make all of his fakes/handoffs look the same but he's even faked out a couple of cameramen Seems as though there's a disconnect between upper and lower body mechanics with him. Squares up nicely for throws on the move. Feet don't seem to line up properly, especially on throws from in the pocket. Throwing base also gets a little wide when moved off his spot. There's also some major issues with decision making (15 INT's could've easily been 20+) and correctly moving against pressure. Some of that is simply due to inexperience but I want to see him learn the value of throwing it away. Although they've worked so far, he's got to stop the cross-body throws. NFL DB's will eat that **** up. Interested to see how Wyoming develop him. Losing all 3 of his top targets from last season (including the amazing Tanner Gentry). The under center stuff helps but I'd like to see them add a little more speed option because his athletic ability is a positive. Talent to work with but I'm just not ready to annoint him just yet. Edited June 14, 2017 by Blokestradamus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) . Athletically, he's on the Mariota/Wentz scale. Some similar ball security issues to those guys as well.Wait, not to change the subject, but did you just compare Wentz's athleticism to Marcus Mariota's? The only valid comparison with Mariota in that category is probably Tyrod Taylor. Edited June 14, 2017 by mannc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Wait, not to change the subject, but did you just compare Wentz's athleticism to Marcus Mariota's? The only valid comparison with Mariota in that category is probably Tyrod Taylor. It's a scale so he falls between the two in certain areas. Mariota and Wentz being the different ends of the spectrum. I'm also guessing that height/weight wise, Allen is bang in the middle of the two. Athleticism also goes beyond the stopwatch, it also impacts stylistic approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 It's a scale so he falls between the two in certain areas. Mariota and Wentz being the different ends of the spectrum. I'm also guessing that height/weight wise, Allen is bang in the middle of the two. Athleticism also goes beyond the stopwatch, it also impacts stylistic approach. Thanks. That makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Thanks. That makes sense. No problem. I find that I have to clarify quite a lot of what I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 No problem. I find that I have to clarify quite a lot of what I say. "Nothing's changed. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. This is a clarification. We were always having a cap." Probably a joke only Blokes will get..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 "Nothing's changed. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. This is a clarification. We were always having a cap." Probably a joke only Blokes will get..... Isn't that Theresa May? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Isn't that Theresa May? Prize to Kirby. She was wrong of course.... what has changed is that a bunch of Northern Irish whackos are now running Government. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm surprised that Jeff's Mahomie senses haven't been tingling in the extreme. http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/06/14/2018-nfl-draft-josh-allen-has-more-upside-than-patrick-mahomes/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I'm surprised that Jeff's Mahomie senses haven't been tingling in the extreme. http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/06/14/2018-nfl-draft-josh-allen-has-more-upside-than-patrick-mahomes/ He's on vacation. But surely this is where he would insist that Mahomes was a generational prospect and Allen sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 He's on vacation. But surely this is where he would insist that Mahomes was a generational prospect and Allen sucks. I've made no secret that I've appreciated DJ's insights since his move to the media. I really hope this isn't him falling into a similar 'hot take' trap that others have. I wouldn't really base arm strength and athletic ability as important traits but it makes for good June copy, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 He's on vacation. But surely this is where he would insist that Mahomes was a generational prospect and Allen sucks. I've made no secret that I've appreciated DJ's insights since his move to the media. I really hope this isn't him falling into a similar 'hot take' trap that others have. I wouldn't really base arm strength and athletic ability as important traits but it makes for good June copy, I guess. Don't forget Andy Reid is a QB god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Don't forget Andy Reid is a QB god. Rico made some 7th round Northwestern scrub look not-entirely-garbage. Maybe he's truly our savant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Took a look at half a dozen Josh Allen games yesterday. Nowhere near the finished article yet but there's a few building blocks for 2017. The arm is really impressive. He's got an "effort ball" where he can seriously gun it but it has a lower trajectory, more likely to be tipped. Athletically, he's on the Mariota/Wentz scale. Some similar ball security issues to those guys as well. Nice quick release and willingness to fit tight windows over the middle. Plays off-script and can make plays by extending. Really needs to make all of his fakes/handoffs look the same but he's even faked out a couple of cameramen Seems as though there's a disconnect between upper and lower body mechanics with him. Squares up nicely for throws on the move. Feet don't seem to line up properly, especially on throws from in the pocket. Throwing base also gets a little wide when moved off his spot. There's also some major issues with decision making (15 INT's could've easily been 20+) and correctly moving against pressure. Some of that is simply due to inexperience but I want to see him learn the value of throwing it away. Although they've worked so far, he's got to stop the cross-body throws. NFL DB's will eat that **** up. Interested to see how Wyoming develop him. Losing all 3 of his top targets from last season (including the amazing Tanner Gentry). The under center stuff helps but I'd like to see them add a little more speed option because his athletic ability is a positive. Talent to work with but I'm just not ready to annoint him just yet. They had a good TE, is he still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 They had a good TE, is he still there? Jacob Hollister is now a New England Patriot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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