Mets fans?

[Misterbluesky]

7 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

 

And this is why Vargas was added. Our once promising lefty can’t get his **** together.

I doubt we here any more talk about Wheeler ending up in middle relief with the Jacob setback and the Matz struggles.I am not to hip on Vargas..his career ERA is mid 4.

[SinceThe70s]

48 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

 

And this is why Vargas was added. Our once promising lefty can’t get his **** together.

 

I'm concerned about Matz's health more than anything.  If the bad outings are health-related I'll be concerned. 

 

I try to take spring training performances (good and bad) with a grain of salt. But I agree, if it continues to be a pattern and he can't get his **** together at least we have other options like Vargas.

Edited March 4, 2018 by SinceThe70s

[Another Fan]

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

[Captain Murica]

3 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

Had season tickets for the past few years from 2014-16, this year we decided not to renew. But, we  will be attended 4-5 games this year on Fridays. Going to be deciding which games later this month and buy the tickets. 

4 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

I doubt we here any more talk about Wheeler ending up in middle relief with the Jacob setback and the Matz struggles.I am not to hip on Vargas..his career ERA is mid 4.

 

Vargas will be the left handed Colon. He’ll have an era hovering 4 but will eat up close to 200 innings. Plus, he’ll give teams another look as he is a soft tossing left and not one of several pitchers that throw 94+. In addition to that we really need Thor, Degrom, and any of the following two to step up and be a reliable starter Wheeler/Harvey/Matz/Gsellman/Lugo/Montero or whomever. 

Edited March 5, 2018 by Captain Murica

[Misterbluesky]

3 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

Hopefully in Toronto..they will be up there on the 3rd and 4th of July. Not sure when they will be in Pittsburgh..that's where I usually catch them.No trip to NYC for me this year..with a bad back..the 7 hour drive is to much these days..

[SinceThe70s]

3 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

 

My wife gets great seats for the family through work once a year. First row Caesar/Foxwoods level, behind home plate. The fact that it's only once a year is aggravating and merits it's own thread.

 

I'll go to a few other games with friends and my brother-in-law.

 

I think my first game at Shea was 1971. I can't imagine a year without going to a Mets game, but I've probably never been to more than 10 in any given year.

 

 

[KD in CA]

7 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

 

West coast swing is late this year, but I may try to see them when they come to SF.

[Another Fan]

Sorry to bring this off topic but do you guys also remember The Mets Clubhouse?  Stores that used to sell tickets and team apparel.

 

Ill never forget Benny Agbiyani that year he first came up came to sign autographs at the local one.  The line was like a 2 hour wait before he even arrived!  He was popular back in the day 

[Captain Murica]

7 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Sorry to bring this off topic but do you guys also remember The Mets Clubhouse?  Stores that used to sell tickets and team apparel.

 

Ill never forget Benny Agbiyani that year he first came up came to sign autographs at the local one.  The line was like a 2 hour wait before he even arrived!  He was popular back in the day 

 

Yup, there is one in Garden City which is about 45mins. to 1 hour drive from my house. 

 

Speaking of waiting hours. My girlfriend and I waited a couple of hours for the Thor/Syndergaard bobble head last year, in hindsight what a ridiculous thing to do, but, ended as of one of my favorite games in recent memory, we were down 5-0 going into the 6th and eventually came back to win on a walk-off HR by Flores. 

[Gugny]

21 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Anyone plan attending any games this year?  Haven't been out to Citi Field since 2015.

 

Last year they were just depressing and it felt like every other train from Jersey stalled into the City

 

We are going to the 8/4 game vs. the Braves.  It's Syndergaard Bobblehead Day.  We'll be in the front row in left field.

23 hours ago, Another Fan said:

Heard he missed again.  Not sure if he'll be ready for opening day.

 

Another tough one for Matz.  It's Spring Training but he's been having a tough time 

 

Matz is toast.  Done.  He was HORRIBLE yesterday.

[Misterbluesky]

Mick and the boys are beginning to grumble about Rosario and Smith. "You can't make the club of you're always in the tub"-Gene Tenace

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Mick and the boys are beginning to grumble about Rosario and Smith. "You can't make the club of you're always in the tub"-Gene Tenace

 

Smith concerns me.  Rosario doesn't.

 

Today, Wheeler pitched well, so that's a positive!

[Misterbluesky]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Smith concerns me.  Rosario doesn't.

 

Today, Wheeler pitched well, so that's a positive!

I watched the game..Darling made the comment that he is throwing hard without thinking about it...also said he just might have to pitch w/pain..which is concering.Rosario is needed..no way can Reyes start..his bat is shot..first grounder to Evans..E...bounced of his wrist on a easy two hop.The true talent is starting to show on this team..and the players that are taking the route of "it's only spring training" look to be having trouble making the final starting day roster.The Vegas team is going to be strong..they will have some heavy bats for sure.

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

I watched the game..Darling made the comment that he is throwing hard without thinking about it...also said he just might have to pitch w/pain..which is concering.Rosario is needed..no way can Reyes start..his bat is shot..first grounder to Evans..E...bounced of his wrist on a easy two hop.The true talent is starting to show on this team..and the players that are taking the route of "it's only spring training" look to be having trouble making the final starting day roster.The Vegas team is going to be strong..they will have some heavy bats for sure.

 

Great observations and agreed on all counts.

[SinceThe70s]

We can start the season with Reyes at short. But we can't finish the season with him at short.

 

Just saw that Thor struck out 7 straight. This is far more important to me than DeGrom  being ready for opening day.

 

 

 

 

[Gugny]

8 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

We can start the season with Reyes at short. But we can't finish the season with him at short.

 

Just saw that Thor struck out 7 straight. This is far more important to me than DeGrom  being ready for opening day.

 

 

 

 

 

Even if DeGrom misses opening day, I think he'll be fine.  If these two can stay healthy all season, that would be phenomenal.  Harvey is who I'm keeping an eye on.  So far, his velocity is up and he seems to have come to camp prepared and focused.

 

As I said earlier, I think Matz is toast.  I haven't heard a lot about Vargas, but thank God Alderson scooped him up.

 

Hopefully Dom Smith can get his head out of his ass, but I'm not overly optimistic.

 

And I agree re: Reyes, but with Frazier's added bat, hopefully we won't need to rely on Reyes for any offensive production.  He's still solid in the field, albeit not quite as flashy as years past.

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

Even if DeGrom misses opening day, I think he'll be fine.  If these two can stay healthy all season, that would be phenomenal.  Harvey is who I'm keeping an eye on.  So far, his velocity is up and he seems to have come to camp prepared and focused.

 

As I said earlier, I think Matz is toast.  I haven't heard a lot about Vargas, but thank God Alderson scooped him up.

 

Hopefully Dom Smith can get his head out of his ass, but I'm not overly optimistic.

 

And I agree re: Reyes, but with Frazier's added bat, hopefully we won't need to rely on Reyes for any offensive production.  He's still solid in the field, albeit not quite as flashy as years past.

 

100% agree on DeGrom, Thor and Harvey. I'm not giving up on Matz yet, he's just way too young, but I hear ya. 

 

My guess on Smith is he starts the season back at Triple A. Best case scenario is he gets his head together and comes up mid season either because Gonzalez is hurt or unproductive. But I'm very skeptical that he'll ever amount to anything.

 

My comments about Reyes were more about Rosario. I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't establish himself as the Mets starting SS this year.

 

[Gugny]

46 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

100% agree on DeGrom, Thor and Harvey. I'm not giving up on Matz yet, he's just way too young, but I hear ya. 

 

My guess on Smith is he starts the season back at Triple A. Best case scenario is he gets his head together and comes up mid season either because Gonzalez is hurt or unproductive. But I'm very skeptical that he'll ever amount to anything.

 

My comments about Reyes were more about Rosario. I'll be very disappointed if he doesn't establish himself as the Mets starting SS this year.

 

 

Agree 100%.

[SinceThe70s]

 

I'm never sure if newsday.com is behind a fee wall. Hopefully not.

 

Matt Harvey and Mickey Calloway pleased with righthander's start despite final line

https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/matt-harvey-mets-spring-training-1.17252685

 

What struck me about this article about Harvey's start today was how much Calloway's comments were invested in the details of pitching.  

 

I understand that can be expected and I'm not suggesting it's a problem, although it does raise an eyebrow for me. Kind of like the defensive coordinator that becomes head coach but can't let go of the D, potentially at the expense of the O.

 

On the positive side I felt like I got more out of "the process" (snicker) of pitching a spring training game than a manager would normally give.

 

 

 

[Misterbluesky]

36 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I'm never sure if newsday.com is behind a fee wall. Hopefully not.

 

Matt Harvey and Mickey Calloway pleased with righthander's start despite final line

https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/matt-harvey-mets-spring-training-1.17252685

 

What struck me about this article about Harvey's start today was how much Calloway's comments were invested in the details of pitching.  

 

I understand that can be expected and I'm not suggesting it's a problem, although it does raise an eyebrow for me. Kind of like the defensive coordinator that becomes head coach but can't let go of the D, potentially at the expense of the O.

 

On the positive side I felt like I got more out of "the process" (snicker) of pitching a spring training game than a manager would normally give.

 

 

 

Just my opinion..and it's a strong one.Why in the hell is our rookie manager talking about him to the media???? Harvey doesn't want the spotlight...the guy appears to be happy and well adjusted again.Mick needs to learn something..he's in New York now..not Cleveland.This is mistake number one by Calloway!

[SinceThe70s]

1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said:

Just my opinion..and it's a strong one.Why in the hell is our rookie manager talking about him to the media???? Harvey doesn't want the spotlight...the guy appears to be happy and well adjusted again.Mick needs to learn something..he's in New York now..not Cleveland.This is mistake number one by Calloway!

 

Bring on the strong opinions. I tend to be middle of the road, but I like the debate....except of course when everyone else is effin clueless

 

I hope you're wrong that "Harvey doesn't wan't the spotlight".  I'm probably getting greedy and unrealistic but I want the Dark Knight back. He was utterly dominant. I'm not looking for happy and well adjusted. 

 

As for Calloway not being in Cleveland...reasonable point. I'll file that away along with my pitching coach vs. manager concern.

[Gugny]

Jake looked strong today, as did Vargas.

[Tierlifer]

Met fan here!! Nice to see some fellow Bills and Mets fans on this board. I do not post much, mainly in the OT site. I pick my spots.

 

My thoughts on the team (Even thought this ST has been pretty abysmal)

 

One of the best 1-2 in the NL with Noah and Jake.....however 3-5 in the rotation is wide open and can either be very solid or also very shaky.

 

Bullpen will definitely be very interesting. I'm not a huge Ramos guy setting up for a healthy Familia but I do think Swarzak was a good pickup, Blevins is always steady but who will be th other LOOGY? Purke? (meh), Matz if he does not make the rotation? Rhame? 

 

I am hearing Conforto is ahead of schedule and could return sometime in April, If so that is GREAT news!

 

Agon has looked like TRASH this ST but I bet he gets a sh*t ton of rope with Smith being hurt. Jay Bruce anyone? Nimmo has had a SENSATIONAL ST. Love what this kid brings to the table with is OBP, smiling, walks, he hits and is a decent OF'er. Lagares is still trash. Ces will be fine as will Bruce.

 

I have thuis team anywhere from 78 wins on the VERY low end to a realistic 83-85 wins. If they get any luck or some over performances from anyone, I think they can maybe.....maybe maybe maybe compete for the WC but I realistically see them at about 82 wins. 

 

Anyhow..just wanted to drop in and say hello.....LGM! And Bills!

[SinceThe70s]

I'm watching SNY and they just popped up this quote from Mets pitching coach Dave Eiland:

 

“Don’t let hitters get comfortable. When you’re pitching, you have to be feared. There is one stat I hope we lead the league in, and that’s hit batters."

 

I think Syndegaard will get along very well with his new coach. What's more interesting to me is whether Eiland can turn around a guy like Robles. I thought Robles showed promise when he first came up, had a bit of an edge. Last year it looked like he was throwing BP. 

 

[Tierlifer]

8 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

I'm watching SNY and they just popped up this quote from Mets pitching coach Dave Eiland:

 

“Don’t let hitters get comfortable. When you’re pitching, you have to be feared. There is one stat I hope we lead the league in, and that’s hit batters."

 

I think Syndegaard will get along very well with his new coach. What's more interesting to me is whether Eiland can turn around a guy like Robles. I thought Robles showed promise when he first came up, had a bit of an edge. Last year it looked like he was throwing BP. 

 

Something NEVER done under the TC and Warthen era. Gas can Robles scares me. 

[Gugny]

18 hours ago, Tierlifer said:

Met fan here!! Nice to see some fellow Bills and Mets fans on this board. I do not post much, mainly in the OT site. I pick my spots.

 

My thoughts on the team (Even thought this ST has been pretty abysmal)

 

One of the best 1-2 in the NL with Noah and Jake.....however 3-5 in the rotation is wide open and can either be very solid or also very shaky.

 

Bullpen will definitely be very interesting. I'm not a huge Ramos guy setting up for a healthy Familia but I do think Swarzak was a good pickup, Blevins is always steady but who will be th other LOOGY? Purke? (meh), Matz if he does not make the rotation? Rhame? 

 

I am hearing Conforto is ahead of schedule and could return sometime in April, If so that is GREAT news!

 

Agon has looked like TRASH this ST but I bet he gets a sh*t ton of rope with Smith being hurt. Jay Bruce anyone? Nimmo has had a SENSATIONAL ST. Love what this kid brings to the table with is OBP, smiling, walks, he hits and is a decent OF'er. Lagares is still trash. Ces will be fine as will Bruce.

 

I have thuis team anywhere from 78 wins on the VERY low end to a realistic 83-85 wins. If they get any luck or some over performances from anyone, I think they can maybe.....maybe maybe maybe compete for the WC but I realistically see them at about 82 wins. 

 

Anyhow..just wanted to drop in and say hello.....LGM! And Bills!

 

Welcome to the thread!!  It'll be going all season, so keep coming by!

 

LGM and GO BILLS!

5 hours ago, Tierlifer said:

Something NEVER done under the TC and Warthen era. Gas can Robles scares me. 

 

I loved TC.  But one of my few knocks on him was his refusal to retaliate in any way, shape or form.

 

I like a clean game.  But I also think there is such a thing as "the right time," for your team to get into a brawl.  Terry definitely did not share my philosophy!

[Tierlifer]

10 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Welcome to the thread!!  It'll be going all season, so keep coming by!

 

LGM and GO BILLS!

 

I loved TC.  But one of my few knocks on him was his refusal to retaliate in any way, shape or form.

 

I like a clean game.  But I also think there is such a thing as "the right time," for your team to get into a brawl.  Terry definitely did not share my philosophy!

TC: Nice guy and they never quit under him. However I am glad he is gone and time for a yonger and fresher voice. Know how many times I used to see a young player go 3-4 and th next day be rotting on the bench? He loved his vets WAY to much for my liking. I am very excited for the Callaway era to commence.

 

Would be nice to win a ST game or two before the bell rings too!!! lol

[Gugny]

Jake fans 8 in his second spring game.  Nice!

 

So it looks like Thor, Jake, Harvey, Vargas and ............. ??????????????  Matz or Wheeler. 

 

They've both struggled all spring.  Matz settled down after starting out like crap in his last start.  Maybe he's ready to turn a corner.  Right now, I'd feel more comfortable with Matz than Wheeler, but not by much.

 

I have a feeling that it won't take long for Adrian Gonzalez to peter out and we'll see Bruce playing first (which I am not really a fan of) and Nimmo out in right.  He's having a nice spring.  I think Dom Smith might be done before he started.  Bummer.

 

Can't wait for the games that count!

 

Let's Go Mets!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tierlifer]

20 hours ago, Gugny said:

Jake fans 8 in his second spring game.  Nice!

 

So it looks like Thor, Jake, Harvey, Vargas and ............. ??????????????  Matz or Wheeler. 

 

They've both struggled all spring.  Matz settled down after starting out like crap in his last start.  Maybe he's ready to turn a corner.  Right now, I'd feel more comfortable with Matz than Wheeler, but not by much.

 

I have a feeling that it won't take long for Adrian Gonzalez to peter out and we'll see Bruce playing first (which I am not really a fan of) and Nimmo out in right.  He's having a nice spring.  I think Dom Smith might be done before he started.  Bummer.

 

Can't wait for the games that count!

 

Let's Go Mets!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce played and adequate 1B last year while Callaway was in Cleveland and a handful of games with the Mets. I think he can handle it if need be and has said he has no problems doing so.

 

Matz to Vegas IMO. 

[Misterbluesky]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:21 PM, Tierlifer said:

Bruce played and adequate 1B last year while Callaway was in Cleveland and a handful of games with the Mets. I think he can handle it if need be and has said he has no problems doing so.

 

Matz to Vegas IMO. 

Actually Bruce only played part of one game at first for the Indians last year.Santana became ill or had a ache.I watched him last year in Cleveland..rooting for him because I know he's a classy,low key guy.I'm pumped he's back and could very easily see him end up at first..early on it looked like that could be the place for Wilmer.. .

Edited March 18, 2018 by Misterbluesky

[Misterbluesky]

On a side note...I think it's very obvious Sandy and Terry need to have a "heart to heart" with David Wright.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said:

On a side note...I think it's very obvious Sandy and Terry need to have a "heart to heart" with David Wright.

 

Heart to heart, my ass.  They need to tell him to cut the **** and retire.  He's become a disgrace.

[Misterbluesky]

26 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Heart to heart, my ass.  They need to tell him to cut the **** and retire.  He's become a disgrace.

Nah..we are not the Yankees!! He loves the Mets and baseball with a hard on,let's respect that..we are not talking about Bobby Bonilla here.I hope Wright would consider joining the announcing crew since Darling will no longer do Sunday games...even nationally.Just a thought.p.s.-Wilmer played first today..

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Nah..we are not the Yankees!! He loves the Mets and baseball with a hard on,let's respect that..we are not talking about Bobby Bonilla here.I hope Wright would consider joining the announcing crew since Darling will no longer do Sunday games...even nationally.Just a thought.p.s.-Wilmer played first today..

 

I thought that for the last few years ... but now, he's just being selfish.  I wanted the Mets to trade him 5-6 years ago.  But they needed a "face," and I think he's taken full advantage of that, especially since Harvey fell flat on his face.  But now they have deGrom and Syndergaard, so they've got their faces of the franchise. Wright just needs to be gone.

 

Wilmer is the ultimate utility guy.  LOVE HIM.

[Misterbluesky]

6 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I thought that for the last few years ... but now, he's just being selfish.  I wanted the Mets to trade him 5-6 years ago.  But they needed a "face," and I think he's taken full advantage of that, especially since Harvey fell flat on his face.  But now they have deGrom and Syndergaard, so they've got their faces of the franchise. Wright just needs to be gone.

 

Wilmer is the ultimate utility guy.  LOVE HIM.

The Mets took out a insurance policy on his contract...the organization is not paying him a dime.

[Another Fan]

2 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Actually Bruce only played part of one game at first for the Indians last year.Santana became ill or had a ache.I watched him last year in Cleveland..rooting for him because I know he's a classy,low key guy.I'm pumped he's back and could very easily see him end up at first..early on it looked like that could be the place for Wilmer.. .

I like Bruce as well.  Even the year he first got here and really struggled, I believe that was because he was having issues outside of the game.  I heard somewhere his apartment didn't even have running water that year.  Anyway he's not the type of guy to use that excuses.  He improved the next year and seem to try to help out Conforto as well.

 

Look forward to seeing him play again too with the Mets

[Tierlifer]

3 hours ago, Misterbluesky said:

Actually Bruce only played part of one game at first for the Indians last year.Santana became ill or had a ache.I watched him last year in Cleveland..rooting for him because I know he's a classy,low key guy.I'm pumped he's back and could very easily see him end up at first..early on it looked like that could be the place for Wilmer.. .

You’re right, I looked that up and thought it was more. 

 

I reallf hope Agon is on a short leash. I’m fine with Flores playing 1B for now even against righties. 

 

Totally agree on Bruce 

[Misterbluesky]

3 hours ago, Another Fan said:

I like Bruce as well.  Even the year he first got here and really struggled, I believe that was because he was having issues outside of the game.  I heard somewhere his apartment didn't even have running water that year.  Anyway he's not the type of guy to use that excuses.  He improved the next year and seem to try to help out Conforto as well.

 

Look forward to seeing him play again too with the Mets

Just to me a favor..don't get pissed off at me during the season..sometimes I tend to get rattled because I bleed the Mets colors a bit much...my dad and uncle were the same way and my nug will literally let a Mets losing streak interfere with his life...p.s.-Vargas fractured his hand? 

[Another Fan]

38 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

Just to me a favor..don't get pissed off at me during the season..sometimes I tend to get rattled because I bleed the Mets colors a bit much...my dad and uncle were the same way and my nug will literally let a Mets losing streak interfere with his life...p.s.-Vargas fractured his hand? 

Lol your Mary Jane stash gets bigger during losing streaks

 

Sorry I just had too

[Misterbluesky]

6 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

Lol your Mary Jane stash gets bigger during losing streaks

 

Sorry I just had too

I think you me smaller (grins).Actually..I only burn when my arthritis kicks up.What's the news on Vargas?