DC Tom Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Flynn talked to the Russian ambassador while on his mobile phone on a beach in the Dominican Republic. That's in the WaPo story. That's a whole lot of interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I'm still trying to figure out how Hillary can receive donations from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, UAE, and other countries (Norway was big), and that isn't considered any kind of threat to the integrity of the Clinton campaign, but unproven claims about Russian Hackers are evidence of Russian tampering and treason by Trump? Edited February 15, 2017 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm still trying to figure out how Hillary can receive donations from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, UAE, and other countries (Norway was big), and that isn't considered any kind of threat to the integrity of the Clinton campaign, but unproven claims about Russian Hackers are evidence of Russian tampering and treason by Trump? You are right! I sure hope they investigate both cases fully. Come on Congress, full investigations! Of course the Trump thing is way worse. Giving to a non profit that helps people isn't really a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm still trying to figure out how Hillary can receive donations from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, UAE, and other countries (Norway was big), and that isn't considered any kind of threat to the integrity of the Clinton campaign, but unproven claims about Russian Hackers are evidence of Russian tampering and treason by Trump? I'm still trying to figure out how Obama campaigning overseas visiting world leaders in July of 2008 wasn't a violation of the Logan Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 That's a whole lot of interesting... Didn't sift all the discussion here but if the NSA was listening in on the Russkie, that is OK. And they can even listen in to his calls with an American. The issue is in the dissemination of the call info. The leakers are in deep crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 The leakers are in deep crap. Deep threat, lol, Great wording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 The leakers are in deep crap. LOL 0% chance of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Didn't sift all the discussion here but if the NSA was listening in on the Russkie, that is OK. And they can even listen in to his calls with an American. Funny you should say that, given that ten years ago warrantless wiretaps of overseas calls was such a huge issue of civil rights and due process, with people worried that such surveillance would be used to target American citizens... Tony Fratto, a White House spokesman [...] stressed that the objective of the new law is to give the government greater flexibility in focusing on foreign suspects overseas, not to go after Americans. “It’s foreign, that’s the point,” Mr. Fratto said. “What you want to make sure is that you are getting the foreign target.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/washington/06nsa.html Strange how it was such a huge issue back then, then everyone went quiet on it for eight years, and now the people who were so concerned with it aren't even questioning it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 You are right! I sure hope they investigate both cases fully. Come on Congress, full investigations! Of course the Trump thing is way worse. Giving to a non profit that helps people isn't really a bad thing Sounds legit. Let's have a Trump appointee investigate Hillary, and I'm guessing you want the people that are avowed Trump opponents to investigate Trump? You're useless, because it's all evasions with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg F Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Anybody remember this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Anybody remember this? No, but stuff like that seemed to happen all the time, but I never saw it develop into calls for the presidents head (at least since Watergate). It's all bull ****. I doubt there is a single person with any real qualifications, that couldn't be taken down by one of the branches of government. That's how they stay in control. I always return to this video, talking about how Clinton had the FBI and CIA taping other politicians, them gathering more than enough to prosecute, but Bill just keeping the tapes for further use, instead of prosecuting pedophiles like Hastert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Funny you should say that, given that ten years ago warrantless wiretaps of overseas calls was such a huge issue of civil rights and due process, with people worried that such surveillance would be used to target American citizens... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/washington/06nsa.html Strange how it was such a huge issue back then, then everyone went quiet on it for eight years, and now the people who were so concerned with it aren't even questioning it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 [This is an automated response.] You're not trying to make a point, you're just a jerk. Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.61. omfg pot kettle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'm still trying to figure out how Obama campaigning overseas visiting world leaders in July of 2008 wasn't a violation of the Logan Act. He was a Senator at the time which might provide him with cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 omfg pot kettle [This is an automated response.] Created by DC Tom-bot, beta version 0.61. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Funny you should say that, given that ten years ago warrantless wiretaps of overseas calls was such a huge issue of civil rights and due process, with people worried that such surveillance would be used to target American citizens... http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/washington/06nsa.html Strange how it was such a huge issue back then, then everyone went quiet on it for eight years, and now the people who were so concerned with it aren't even questioning it... Seriously? Was that what people were worried about? As I remember it was about the FBI knowing what books we took out of the library. But who controls the past...Good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Huh................what was the MSM all in a froth about then ? CNN: FBI not expected to file charges against Flynn. He did not hide the truth. He was not intentionally misleading. CNN Chief National Security Correspondent Jim Sciutto, citing his colleague, CNN Justice Correspondent Evan Perez, made the announcement on Twitter: Jim Sciutto ✔ @jimsciutto Breaking: FBI NOT expected to pursue charges against #MichaelFlynn regarding phone calls w/Russian Ambassador, reports @evanperez Jim Sciutto ✔@jimsciutto More: FBI says Flynn was cooperative and provided truthful answers 6:47 PM - 15 Feb 2017 Edited February 16, 2017 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 What did Flynn do wrong? What did he speak to the Russian ambassador about? Don't know... But I hope we find out: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/319800-gop-senators-unnerved-by-trump-russia-relationship "...While Republicans aren’t yet willing to endorse a special investigative committee, GOP senators have indicated that could change. Chairman Bob CorkerBob CorkerCorker: Senate GOP discussing best path for Russia probeGOP senators unnerved by Trump-Russia relationship acknowledged that calls for a wide-ranging investigation have “gained momentum over the last 48 hours.” “I’m not yet ready to embrace that,” he added. “It’s fair to say, not specific to a select committee, I am engaging with others to try to figure out the best way, in a full way, to understand what is happening.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Probably can be a thread in itself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/admit-it-trump-is-unfit-to-serve/2017/02/15/467d0bbe-f3be-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.4ecd75f848b2 But...But... Hillary did this! The blame game never stops: "...It is a sign of how beleaguered Trump is that his Twitter response on Wednesday morning was not to take responsibility but to assign blame. His villains are leakers and the press: “Information is being illegally given to the failing @nytimes & @washingtonpost by the intelligence community (NSA and FBI?). Just like Russia.” It is notable that in acknowledging that the news reports are based on “information,” Trump effectively confirmed them. At the same time, he was characteristically wrong about Russia, whose government prevents transparency and punishes those who try to foster it. There’s also this: Kremlin agents stole information from a political party in a free country. That is very different from the actions of the media’s informants inside our government who are holding our own officials accountable for their false denials and fictitious claims..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Franklin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) What did Flynn do wrong? Yeah, what indeed? The Flynn choice is an unmitigated disaster at this point. The question is whether the dumpster will melt from the heat. Did Trump know about Turkey? And of course those pesky calls to Russia discussing sanctions. What did Trump know and when did he know it. The truth is coming to light. And it always does. As I said a few hundred years ago, three can keep a secret if two are dead. If Trump had knowledge about any of this, even HOFWatkins might turn on him! Edited March 10, 2017 by Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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