Doc Brown Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: The economy is going to be destroyed by the end of April. If this lasts more than a few months, which seems likely give the curve the US is tracking along, the economy will crash. First the hotel, airline and restaurant industries will fail. Then autos will begin to fail as no one will be buying cars anymore. Same for real estate construction. This is going to be a colossal disaster. No other way to put it. As long as it doesn't delay the NFL draft. It'll be interesting to see if it does get bad if we just lift the curfew and tell everyone at highest risk to self quarantine. Everybody else just get back to work and life as usual. Hopefully it won't come to that. Edited March 23, 2020 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, jrober38 said: The government is going to have to start shipping people money every month. That is going to be the only option with unemployment upwards of 15%. 23 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I own multiple firearms. I have no belief that I'll have to use them. I didn't edit anything. You edited the first reply 49 minutes ago. Trudeau will make you turn your liberal card having multiple firearms. You hope that you will not have to use them but if times get real hard and people think that you have items of value then who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, Chef Jim said: What about renters? I guess we already have protections in place? Sure...you live in CA. Will take about four years to evict you for non-payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, jrober38 said: The economy is going to be destroyed by the end of April. If this lasts more than a few months, which seems likely give the curve the US is tracking along, the economy will crash. First the hotel, airline and restaurant industries will fail. Then autos will begin to fail as no one will be buying cars anymore. Same for real estate construction. This is going to be a colossal disaster. No other way to put it. while we really don't know it yet, we have a much more pressing concern than the economy. that is, the just in time (JIT) supply system. how prepared are people to shelter in place do you think? most have what, two weeks worth of food, maybe? what happens then, they need to restock. as i have said previously, we are already seeing signs of the JIT supply system being stressed, those signs being empty shelves in the grocery stores and an inability for people to get items such as toilet paper. what is going to happen two weeks from now is that that stress is going to back up into that supply chain even further causing breakdowns in quite possibly unsuspecting ways. as more and more states go into complete shutdown and limit people and businesses to 'essentials' only, the JIT problem compounds. from the cornfield to the dinner table, the entire economy is interlinked. what is deemed nonessential today is going to be found to have been the missing link tomorrow. when people's stomachs start growling, you can be sure that they are going to act in irrational ways and do the unthinkable. do not be fooled chaos is right around that corner. Edited March 23, 2020 by Foxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 hours ago, KD in CA said: Sure...you live in CA. Will take about four years to evict you for non-payment. Cool!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Foxx said: while we really don't know it yet, we have a much more pressing concern than the economy. that is, the just in time (JIT) supply system. how prepared are people to shelter in place do you think? most have what, two weeks worth of food, maybe? what happens then, they need to restock. as i have said previously, we are already seeing signs of the JIT supply system being stressed, those signs being empty shelves in the grocery stores and an inability for people to get items such as toilet paper. what is going to happen two weeks from now is that that stress is going to back up into that supply chain even further causing breakdowns in quite possibly unsuspecting ways. as more and more states go into complete shutdown and limit people and businesses to 'essentials' only, the JIT problem compounds. from the cornfield to the dinner table, the entire economy is interlinked. what is deemed nonessential today is going to be found to have been the missing link tomorrow. when people's stomachs start growling, you can be sure that they are going to act in irrational ways and do the unthinkable. do not be fooled chaos is right around that corner. If I had to guess most people do not have two weeks equivalent of food in their homes. The trouble is quite a bit of our food is perishable. It can not be readied for the shelf weeks in advance. However, that should not be an excuse to not have an extra box of rice or pasta on your shelf. An extra box of cereal. A half dozen cans of vegetables and a half dozen cans of soup. My guess as of this morning states such as NY will be in "shut down" for a couple more weeks minimum. If some predictions of being shutdown until May 1 come true then look out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, RochesterRob said: If I had to guess most people do not have two weeks equivalent of food in their homes. The trouble is quite a bit of our food is perishable. It can not be readied for the shelf weeks in advance. However, that should not be an excuse to not have an extra box of rice or pasta on your shelf. An extra box of cereal. A half dozen cans of vegetables and a half dozen cans of soup. My guess as of this morning states such as NY will be in "shut down" for a couple more weeks minimum. If some predictions of being shutdown until May 1 come true then look out. NYS does not need a lock down! Only NYC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: NYS does not need a lock down! Only NYC It's not up to us citizens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, RochesterRob said: It's not up to us citizens. No, but would be the ultimate power play by Cuomo over Big Bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: If I had to guess most people do not have two weeks equivalent of food in their homes. The trouble is quite a bit of our food is perishable. It can not be readied for the shelf weeks in advance. However, that should not be an excuse to not have an extra box of rice or pasta on your shelf. An extra box of cereal. A half dozen cans of vegetables and a half dozen cans of soup. My guess as of this morning states such as NY will be in "shut down" for a couple more weeks minimum. If some predictions of being shutdown until May 1 come true then look out. the old proverb comes to mind... 'may you live in interesting times'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Foxx said: the old proverb comes to mind... 'may you live in interesting times'. And be sexually attacked by Demi Moore. Please don't throw me in the brier patch! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, Foxx said: the old proverb comes to mind... 'may you live in interesting times'. I was thinking of Aesop's The Ant and the Grasshopper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 With respect to the Stimulus Bill Congress—and in particular, the House of Representatives—is invested with the “power of the purse,” the ability to tax and spend public money for the national government. Not McConnell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, ALF said: With respect to the Stimulus Bill Congress—and in particular, the House of Representatives—is invested with the “power of the purse,” the ability to tax and spend public money for the national government. Not McConnell I see, the Senate has no say in the matter? At present Nancy Pelosi, all by herself controls the House. Is this the hill you want to die on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 The current health scare is real time proof that while the President is working with a team of doctors and professionals to get the country back on its collective feet, the Governors and the hacks in Congress are doing everything in their powers to shut things down and starve out the citizenry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I see, the Senate has no say in the matter? At present Nancy Pelosi, all by herself controls the House. Is this the hill you want to die on? That's the Constitution , amend it to go around Pelosi. Elections have consequences , the House has a Democratic majority. The Senate has to negotiate with the House to find common ground that's how our system was built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, ALF said: That's the Constitution , amend it to go around Pelosi. Elections have consequences , the House has a Democratic majority. The Senate has to negotiate with the House to find common ground that's how our system was built. That's the attitude. Cause a lot of economic pain for the country and get slammed in the elections coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) beginnings of the bifurcation of the economy? Gas prices could soon drop to 99 cents a gallon in parts of the Midwest https://twitter.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/1242103015454244864 that's right, .34 cents a gallon, their secret is getting out. Edited March 23, 2020 by Foxx 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Foxx said: beginnings of the bifurcation of the economy? Gas prices could soon drop to 99 cents a gallon in parts of the Midwest https://twitter.com/GasBuddyGuy/status/1242103015454244864 that's right, .34 cents a gallon, their secret is getting out. Cat-Rez in Irving was at $1.26 this am. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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