BringBackFergy Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Not sure I've gotten an answer on this yet: can Whaley re-negotiate Tyrod's contract if the contract already guarantees him $27 million next year? I mean, it's a contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes. They should offer him the vet minimum with escalators for performance. He'd be dumb not to take it, as he clearly he is a back up QB and no other team would want him at his already team friendly contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Not sure I've gotten an answer on this yet: can Whaley re-negotiate Tyrod's contract if the contract already guarantees him $27 million next year? I mean, it's a contract.You can. Hey Tyrod we want you back but have to relook this contract if you dont want to redo it we are not picking option. Then up to player to decide to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Awful White QBs @AwfulWhiteQBs 6h 6 hours ago ARI, CAR, NE, NO are the only teams in the NFL who've scored more offensive TDs than the Bills during the Tyrod Taylor era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Awful White QBs @AwfulWhiteQBs 6h 6 hours ago ARI, CAR, NE, NO are the only teams in the NFL who've scored more offensive TDs than the Bills during the Tyrod Taylor era. He's terrible tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Not sure I've gotten an answer on this yet: can Whaley re-negotiate Tyrod's contract if the contract already guarantees him $27 million next year? I mean, it's a contract. No way! Contracts are iron clad and must always be honored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 You can. Hey Tyrod we want you back but have to relook this contract if you dont want to redo it we are not picking option. Then up to player to decide to do it Last time I checked, a contract is an agreement which includes offer, acceptance, consideration and performance. Although some question Tyrod's performance, he played all year. Consideration was demonstrated between payment of salary and playing QB. I don't think they can change the terms of the contract now. Tyrod could sue for breach of contract I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Last time I checked, a contract is an agreement which includes offer, acceptance, consideration and performance. Although some question Tyrod's performance, he played all year. Consideration was demonstrated between payment of salary and playing QB. I don't think they can change the terms of the contract now. Tyrod could sue for breach of contract I bet. Umm nope But nice attempt not getting into an IR return vs PUP discussion again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Umm nope But nice attempt not getting into an IR return vs PUP discussion again What about pinky swear oaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshermw Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 With the 2014 Shwartz D, Bills have 2 playoff appearances and most likely an AFC CG appearance with this TT led O. For sure, the drought would be over. And in my little fantasy scenario, Bills should still be drafting a QB every draft - 3/4 rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 Umm nope But nice attempt not getting into an IR return vs PUP discussion again Nice try deflecting sound principles of contract that have been accepted by our society for well over 17 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes we could've also not given him a $6M raise this year and a ludicrous $27.5M option next year if we want to keep him. Unfortunately, the guy who gave him that assinine deal is out looking for our new HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 What about pinky swear oaths? Now thats is a different story. Please tell me we didnt pinky swear with Tyrod Yes we could've also not given him a $6M raise this year and a ludicrous $27.5M option next year if we want to keep him. Unfortunately, the guy who gave him that assinine deal is out looking for our new HC. Might want to reas the OverTheCap article i posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 NO.... you either exercise the team option or you don't. if you choose NOT to , then TT becomes an UFA....at which time you can then make a new offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes we could've also not given him a $6M raise this year and a ludicrous $27.5M option next year if we want to keep him. Unfortunately, the guy who gave him that assinine deal is out looking for our new HC. Why is it so crazy to think the quarterback who had the 8th highest passer rating in 2015 and currently the 17th highest and has led the Bills to the 8th rated offense in the league this season would deserve a salary with a cap hit that is only 20th in the league among quarterbacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 NO.... you either exercise the team option or you don't. if you choose NOT to , then TT becomes an UFA....at which time you can then make a new offer. So we can negotiate with him after we breach the contract? Makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I hope you're joking?? I mean someone with over 11,000 posts can't be this ignorant about basic NFL football contracts can you?? You are however 100% correct, contracts can't be broken and TT could sue for breach of contract. Except for one little tiny problem. All the bills have to do is say, we're now cutting you prior to I believe it's 3 days after the start of the new calendar year and there is no contract that was broken. It no longer exists and everyone goes their merry way. Well TT goes his merry way with slightly lighter pockets. Last time I checked, a contract is an agreement which includes offer, acceptance, consideration and performance. Although some question Tyrod's performance, he played all year. Consideration was demonstrated between payment of salary and playing QB. I don't think they can change the terms of the contract now. Tyrod could sue for breach of contract I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I hope you're joking?? I mean someone with over 11,000 posts can't be this ignorant about basic NFL football contracts can you?? You are however 100% correct, contracts can't be broken and TT could sue for breach of contract. Except for one little tiny problem. All the bills have to do is say, we're now cutting you prior to I believe it's 3 days after the start of the new calendar year and there is no contract that was broken. It no longer exists and everyone goes their merry way. Well TT goes his merry way with slightly lighter pockets. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 OK you are technically correct, but prior to the date they need to exercise the option they can talk informally with TT, "we need to redo the contact to this amount, will you agree?" If yes then the Bills void the contract so for about five minutes he's a FA, then they sign the new one already agreed to. Now it would be possible, during that five minutes, TT could say Ha Ha fooled you, I'm not signing it, but that doesn't happen at this level as an agent isn't going to lose all credibility NO....you either exercise the team option or you don't.if you choose NOT to , then TT becomes an UFA....at which time you can then make a new offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 I hope you're joking?? I mean someone with over 11,000 posts can't be this ignorant about basic NFL football contracts can you?? You are however 100% correct, contracts can't be broken and TT could sue for breach of contract. Except for one little tiny problem. All the bills have to do is say, we're now cutting you prior to I believe it's 3 days after the start of the new calendar year and there is no contract that was broken. It no longer exists and everyone goes their merry way. Well TT goes his merry way with slightly lighter pockets. Most of my 11000 posts are just a bunch of "this" and "I agree". I didn't see this question raised (about whether our GM thought about paying Tyrod less money) so thanks for clarifying what I originally thought - that we could be in trouble if we don't pay the man. I'm sure Pegula has good attorneys but they shouldn't have been put in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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