Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bring in an offense-minded coach like Gruden who can light a fire under Tyrod to speed things up and actually read defenses. Get him a tall #2. And in the meantime trade up for Trubinsky, whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. I don't argue the "Offense" is the problem - quite the opposite in my mind - Tyrod as QB is THE problem. Receivers are and were getting open, even the less notable receivers, Clay has been open most of the year, the running game is working and if Tyrod didn't break out of the pocket as often, pass protection would be average at worst to good at best. However, leaving receiving yards on the field, failing to hit open receivers, not use the middle of the field, very inaccurate throws high, low and wide have been a persistent issue for him. So, I'd say the "Offense" has been productive DESPITE Tyrod, certainly not because of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bring in an offense-minded coach like Gruden who can light a fire under Tyrod to speed things up and actually read defenses. Get him a tall #2. And in the meantime trade up for Trubinsky, whatever it takes. And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Exactly Bobby there is No Evidence he can't . You are coming around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 And if TT cant process any faster? Evidence he cant? Better define his presnap reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Exactly Bobby there is No Evidence he can't . You are coming around Sure there is his own former coach even said it Better define his presnap reads. So make a simple Offense simpler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 player vs your entire recieving corps when your corps are not deep to begin with. Any way you slice it you lose and lose by a huge margin. Anybody still arguing that the offense is the problem is being laughed at by most on these boards. How many more times will you dodge the raiders/Steelers performances ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Why should we actually we have many many times and the COT just cannot fathom similar play from those names at a reduced cost because TT is elite I actually agree with this. We have given the names. Some of you don't agree they are alternatives - fine. They obviously rate Tyrod higher than I do. Edited December 25, 2016 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Sure there is his own former coach even said it So make a simple Offense simpler Bobby I am confused. I was agreeing with you when you said "There is no evidence he cant". I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Bobby I am confused. I was agreeing with you when you said "There is no evidence he cant". I agree. My bad typo guess i will add english classes to my counseling sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) What did Aaron Rodgers do missing Jordy Nelson? Cam Newton missing Benjamin, Dak Prescott do missing Dez? Got it people need to be on the field to make TT serviceable. The other players make him better not other way around. Aaron Rodgers had his worst QB rating for any full season and his completion percentage dropped by about 6% to a number lower than Tyrod's this year by about a percent...that's what missing Nelson did for him. His YPA also dropped to the lowest for his career as well by about 1.2 yards over his career average to a number lower than Tyrod's YPA this year... But he gets a lot of easy 1 and 2 yard TD throws down by the goalline Tyrod doesn't get... So to Recap...Rodgers without Nelson: 60.7% Completion, 6.7 YPA, 92.6 rating, 46 sacks Tyrod without Watkins: 61.7% Completion, 6.9 YPA, 89.7 Rating, 42 sacks Yeah...that didn't work out so good for you MAJBobby...maybe you should try another one... Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 In my opinion - Tyrod is the better football player but not the better QB. EJ & CJ are better in the 2 minute drill, hurry up & with come-back ability. Once we get behind or the 2 minute drill we should be putting EJ in there. Just my opinion. Go Bills!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Aaron Rodgers had his worst QB rating for any full season and his completion percentage dropped by about 6%...that's what missing Nelson did for him. and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Off pace by 500 yards still 3800. Still a 3 to 1 TD:INT RATIO. Still higher than 90 rating still won games with his arm still won games despite having a horrible defense Cam? Dak? Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yep because Shady was trash before he has Tyrod Taylor as his QB. Yes TT helps the run offense but not nearly as much as people want to make it Feel free to break it down for us. Would love a detailed x's and o's analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Cam? Dak? Nice completely deflect when the guy destroyed your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Nice completely deflect when the guy destroyed your position. Nope but keep trying it js fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) and Yet Still better than TT ever has. Off pace by 500 yards still 3800. Still a 3 to 1 TD:INT RATIO. Still higher than 90 rating Cam? Dak? Of course they are are a pass based offense...what a stupid argument...Oh, he had all these yards because he throws the ball 150 times more a season than Tyrod...well, no ****?? You mean he had more yards and more TD passes when you throw the ball a lot more? Who would have guessed?? He also had his lowest yards per game at 238 of his career...about 19 more yards than Tyrod averaged last year. Surely, you can do better than that. Your argument just got blown up in your face and you now want to turn it into something that obviously would be true based on the number of attempts he had... Edited December 25, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Nope but keep trying it js fun Thats what you do that is what you always do then deny doing it. Denying it wont make it go away because it is reality and everyone can see it. Everytime you are empty for a response you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Of course they are are a pass based offense...what a stupid argument...Oh, he had all these yards because he throws the ball 150 times more a season than Tyrod...well, no ****?? You mean he had more yards and more TD passes when you throw the ball a lot more? Who would have guessed?? Surely, you can do better than that. And Carolina and their Run Based offense when Cam Lost Benjamin? Sunk their season and exposed Cam didnt it? Dallas and thier run first system Dak was exposed when Dez didnt play? Actually Dak played better when Dez was off the field great for his development. Sorry that out QB doesnt elevate anyones play instead needs other players to elevate his. Edited December 25, 2016 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Think most people would trade our offense for the Cowboys offense in a heartbeat. Fact is we are seventh in scoring and they are sixth. We are exactly .2 points per game behind them. Our problem isnt offense its defense. It took Jim Kelly 4 years to reach his peak. Tyrods been in this offense for two. I have no issue with the Bills taking a qb in thr fourth or fifth round. But our first three selections should be defense. Is tyrod perfect. Not even close. But he is the qb of the seventh best offense in the league. Thats a fact. He should be brought back. There are no better options unless we get incredibly lucky in the draft like Dallas did. A broken down Tony Romo? No thanks unless its a conditional third and the price will be much higher than that for him. Edited December 25, 2016 by TANK2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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