Warren Zevon Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: They have different opinions and aren't willing to let those opinions slide just for the sake of party unity A majority gargle Trump's balls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: A majority gargle Trump's balls Ah, Gary making his usual contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Ah, Gary making his usual contribution. Says the useful idiot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, meazza said: Or part of a grand master plan according to some with information on the ground. There is a plan, but it's not a secret or a "master plan". It's what he ran on and has spent nearly every day in office executing: drawing the US down from endless wars which were being waged not to protect this country or for global stability, but to enrich the neocon/neoliberal/MiC establishment. The same establishment who's been engaging in a full on information warfare campaign against the western population. * The first step in that plan was to realign KSA with the west rather than the MiC/USIC, because KSA is the key to the GCC's ability to secure the region without requiring long term US support or boots on the ground. This happened in 2017, almost immediately after the US elections. The timing wasn't coincidental. * The second step was to push the US/GCC partnership to new heights of efficiency as they took it to Hezbollah and Hamas (and other Iranian proxies) in several theaters throughout 2018-2019 (including Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and others -- covered while they were happening in the DS thread). * While step two was happening, the US withdrew from the Iran deal and proceeded to defang Iran through economic warfare while the GCC/Israel/US forces took out their proxies supply lines and financing hubs. Combined, these two steps limited Iran's ability to continue its expansion in the region which had been ongoing for 8 years under 44. * And while all that was going on, the US/GCC/Israel were all working together to tackle ISIS, AQ, and other sunni/shia proxies. Now we're in the latter stages of the plan. The Mullahs are going to go next -- and once they're gone, it'll create a small window for actual peace and stability in the region. But that window requires a strong presence in the region, like the GCC/Israel to do the job we assigned ourselves to do for the past 17 years. Will it work? Time will tell. You can certainly argue against the messaging and Trump's own bloviation/inability to articulate the policy clearly -- that's fair and understandable -- but the results have been incredibly successful both on the ground and for the long term stability in the region. But because the media is not honest and answers to the MiC/USIC above all else, none of this has been accurately covered or reported on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Says the useful idiot Are you ever going to be original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 He just sent more troops to the kingdom That's not drawing down Just now, 3rdnlng said: Are you ever going to be original? You are a useful idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The Kingdom is not what it was prior to 2017. It's also not an active combat zone. Stationing troops in KSA as a deterrent is not in any way comparable to putting troops between two hostile armies itching to fight. No new wars under 45 -- which is odd considering for two years we were told he was a warmonger. Truth is, he's a dove. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He just sent more troops to the kingdom That's not drawing down You are a useful idiot Your ad lib lines are well rehearsed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Oh no, the kingdom just suffered a major attack from Iran, that's all. Now we are there to protect the kingdom...and its oil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The Kingdom is not what it was prior to 2017. It's also not an active combat zone. Stationing troops in KSA as a deterrent is not in any way comparable to putting troops between two hostile armies itching to fight. No new wars under 45 -- which is odd considering for two years we were told he was a warmonger. Truth is, he's a dove. Nothing better than a dove with an AR-15 over his shoulder and two 45 automatics on his hips. 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Oh no, the kingdom just suffered a major attack from Iran, that's all. Now we are there to protect the kingdom...and its oil That's so 1970's ish. Guess what? We don't need their stinkin' oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Nothing better than a dove with an AR-15 over his shoulder and two 45 automatics on his hips. That's so 1970's ish. Guess what? We don't need their stinkin' oil. No, we need to keep world oil prices low. We don't need their oil, but we need the world oil market. So we protect China's and Japan's oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: The problem that the Republicans have is that they have never been able to just fall in line. They have different opinions and aren't willing to let those opinions slide just for the sake of party unity. This may be as inaccurate a statement as i have seen from one you lunatics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buftex said: This may be as inaccurate a statement as i have seen from one you lunatics. Trump is his hero like Reagan was before. There's a thread about it somewhere. Idol worship is creepy especially with old male politicians, but 3rd thing does his own thing, so more power to him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buftex said: This may be as inaccurate a statement as i have seen from one you lunatics. Yeah...remember when Biden publicly came out in support of gay marriage, then Obama's opinion "evolved," then EVERY Democrat fell in to lock-step behind them within a week? Republicans have orthodoxy of belief. Democrats have orthodoxy of behavior. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 3:52 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: A master stroke of diplomacy, no doubt. This letter will go down in the anals of history and be studied by scholars until the end of time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: Yeah...remember when Biden publicly came out in support of gay marriage, then Obama's opinion "evolved," then EVERY Democrat fell in to lock-step behind them within a week? Republicans have orthodoxy of belief. Democrats have orthodoxy of behavior. I look at it a little differently. In the current rendition of the Democratic Party the means, any means, justify the end....which is of course the amassing of all power in the government. Once they get there, the noose gets tightened and everyone of these empathetic literal snowflakes is gonna get screwed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, Buftex said: This may be as inaccurate a statement as i have seen from one you lunatics. You speakum English not so good but why would that have changed since the last visit to your superiors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, DC Tom said: Yeah...remember when Biden publicly came out in support of gay marriage, then Obama's opinion "evolved," then EVERY Democrat fell in to lock-step behind them within a week? Republicans have orthodoxy of belief. Democrats have orthodoxy of behavior. Shut up you dumb Trump supporter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 A letter to Kurdish soldiers from a US military wife You don't know me, but I have known of you for most of my adult life. When my military husband and I quickly married, knowing he was deploying to the Middle East to be part of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, I feared what he and his Special Operations unit would face when they arrived. How bad would the fighting be? How long would they be gone? Would he survive? Months later, he returned and recounted to me what he could about his experience. I asked how he had made it through. He replied, "We had help. We had the Kurds." He told me stories of how the Kurdish people in Northern Iraq supported the troops, advised them, stood by them, fought shoulder to shoulder with them in combat, and became allies and friends. And I became grateful -- immensely, unwaveringly, and forever grateful for you. Since then, the word "Kurds" in my home has meant something. It has meant "ally" There are pictures of Iraqi Kurds alongside my husband and fellow soldiers in our home. I have a coffee mug with depictions of female Syrian Kurdish soldiers on it that I proudly use to remind me of you. My children play soccer in their Kurdistan jerseys. The Kurdish people are not nameless, faceless people across the world. You hold a place of honor and respect in our home. It's important to me that all of you know that. I owe you so much. My husband is home safe today after years of fighting and I know you helped make that happen. But now, I watch the news in horror. I see promises broken, progress destroyed, years of hard work and unimaginable sacrifice gone in a tweet. I see allies betrayed, their faces in my picture frame. While watching the news, my children turn to me and ask if those are our friends and I say yes. They have looks of confusion on their faces. https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/opinions/letter-to-kurdish-soldiers-from-military-wife-opinion/index.html The full sad letter at the link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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