17 Josh Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 As I watched this Raiders game with my 31 year old son. Dan Fouts said on TV Tyrod Taylor has never thrown for 300 yards in a NFL game. My son said to me hey dad this is not the 1970's anymore. I laughed and said but Tyrod already has like 110 yards in the first quarter. He said you want to bet Tyrod won't make it to even 250 yards. The Bills need a QB that can make some real throws. Look I like Tyrod but let's face it. He holds the ball the longest of any starting QB in the NFL. He really will not throw it unless his receivers are wide open. He has no anticipation skills what so ever. With all that being said he does some things well and he is a hard worker. But if I'm being honest with myself the best QB on this Bills Roster is Cardale Jones. He has the body frame, height and the arm to make the tight throws with anticipation. If I'm Rex he needs to be honest to the team. Having Tyrod miss or not see wide open recievers is embarrassing. Tyrod does a lot of good out there but the Bills are not going to make it to the playoffs with Tyrod playing QB like he is. I know many of you will say how could Cardale Jones be better then Tyrod right now. Well it's just a gut feel and it's based on Cardale Jones reaction to what he did for Ohio State when pressed into duty. It's a bold move alright and maybe its's one you do because that's what being a head coach is all about. You don't get any where in life with out taking chances. Better to try and fail then to not try at all. Honestly ask your self right now at this moment who will have the better NFL career at QB. In my opinion it will be Cardale Jones. Bold moves need to be taken here if your being honest to the rest of the team. Tyrod is not good enough. This is not intermeral football it's the NFL and if your not preforming well enough, it's time for you to be replaced. So yes Tyrod is not playing well enough to win the last 4 games. We seen what E J Manual is. Let's get bold here and do what I think everyone's gut knows is the right thing to do. Put Cardale Jones in. Now when Greg Roman was not doing a good job they replaced him. When the Vikings offensive coordinator was not doing his job they replaced him and he won Superbowls with the Cowboys. The NFL is not about what you have done it's about what your going to do. Bold moves require bold thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRT88 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 so the bold move is to throw a guy who hasn't taken a snap in the league yet, has he even dressed for a game? That's the bold move. OK, sure, losing our next 4 games will land us another top 10 pick and I'm sure we can draft a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I don't know where Cardale is as far as being ready to start but we have seen what Tyrod brings and it's .500 football. I have seen enough .500 football for the rest of my life. Does Rex have the nads to make that change? We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 so the bold move is to throw a guy who hasn't taken a snap in the league yet, has he even dressed for a game? That's the bold move. Especially if we're Honest.. "Honestly ask your self right now at this moment who will have the better NFL career at QB. In my opinion it will be Cardale Jones." Yeesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 My wish is for this to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Cardalle Jones has some serious accuracy issues, even compared to TT or EJ. He had them at OSU, he had them in the camp, and he had them in the pre-season games. I don't think they have magically resolved themselves. What made him have a good run at OSU for a handful of games was the fact that defenses were keying on stopping Elliot and WRs were getting wide open. Regardless, he often still under threw them and over threw them, but the WRs made great plays. Add to that the fact that he was able to use his legs a bit at the college level. Unfortunately, he's not fast enough to do that effectively in the NFL in my opinion. I don't think he will never be a successful NFL QB. Sorry to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) It is not Tyrod's lack of accuracy that bothers me most. It is his unwillingness to take risks. There was one specific play yesterday where sammy was on the right side of the field and completely beat his defender but Tyrod never even looked in his direction. Why isnt he going through his progressions. He makes should-be simple catches into acrobatic affairs (a la the dump off to shady that he had to make a spectacular one handed catch). His receivers are beginning to not believe in him. It is evident in their body language. It does not matter who our receivers are, we can make this assesment on tyrod. Edited December 5, 2016 by Finkle Is Einhorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 My prediction is that the Stealers will crush us and then we will win the remaining 3 games. I'd still like to see what EJ can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 We all new that EJ was a project when we drafted him and we had to throw him in before he was ready - I would see where he's at before we cut him loose. If he plays as bad as Tyrod then I would go with Cardale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 My prediction is that the Stealers will crush us and then we will win the remaining 3 games. I'd still like to see what EJ can do. Unfortunately we've seen what EJ can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 My prediction is that the Stealers will crush us and then we will win the remaining 3 games. I'd still like to see what EJ can do. I agree with this - There's no way that Tryhard is a legit franchise QB. We're pretty sure that EJ isn't either, but if caretaker .500 QB is all we have right now then let's not pay TT all that money. I'm p.sure EJ can keep us at .500 for another year or two and let us draft QBs, and develop Caradalle, until we have a legit QB. I really wanted TT to be the man, but it seems like he's another in a long line of guys that wont get us any better than 9-7 and can't beat winning teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 just have Logan Thomas start so we get a better draft pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'd still like to see what EJ can do. That'd be great. A whole game of hard counts and QB sneaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I agree with the OP. One more loss (or out of hand game) and it wouldn't hurt to get Cardale on the field. I'd avoid throwing him out there if he's not at all ready or if we are up against a tough defense though. Get him some experience and see what we've got to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 I see all points of view with this discussion, but Cradale Jones is a prototype QB, if the Cowboys can start a 3rd round rookie draft pick Dak Presscott who did not have glowing pre-draft reports on him then the Bills can start there 4th round rookie draft pick Cardale Jones. This guy is not chop liver, He would play well with all the Bills starters instead of 3rd and 4 string players in the preseason. Look what happen when he started with the 1st string players at Ohio State. They won the National Championship. What do we have to loose at this point. We know Taylor will just continue to hold the ball and hold the ball and not take any chances, unless his receivers are wide open. What ever happen to throwing the ball before the receiver makes his cut. How about throwing over the middle. I think the BILLS O-LINE IS PRETTY AMAZING, TAYLOR HOLDS THE BALL LONGER THEN ANY STARTER IN THE NFL. Taylor is pretty good but he can not carry you when the other team knows he is in must pass mode. We need a tall QB with large body that can make those tight window throws and throw with anticipation. That is what Cardale Jones is and he is also good at taking off and running when he has too based on his QB play at Ohio State. Hey guys bold moves require guts and bold thinking. After we loose to Pittsburgh it will be time to do this move. It's too bad REX and are GM don't have the guts to do it now for the Steelers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Especially if we're Honest.. "Honestly ask your self right now at this moment who will have the better NFL career at QB. In my opinion it will be Cardale Jones." Yeesh! Interesting how many people still believe in unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 Chandler#81 **** I will hang on to my Unicorn and your comment and you will hear back from me in the future, I won't forget your comment. Just be prepared to say you were wrong on this forum in the future. Cardale Jones will throw for 300 yards long before Tyrod ever does. Taylor has 26 starts in the NFL and has not done it yet. Time will tell, but my eyes see a pretty good Starting QB in Cardale Jones. He just needs a opportunity like 3rd draft pick Dak Prescott got in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I see all points of view with this discussion, but Cradale Jones is a prototype QB, if the Cowboys can start a 3rd round rookie draft pick Dak Presscott who did not have glowing pre-draft reports on him then the Bills can start there 4th round rookie draft pick Cardale Jones. This guy is not chop liver, He would play well with all the Bills starters instead of 3rd and 4 string players in the preseason. Look what happen when he started with the 1st string players at Ohio State. They won the National Championship. What do we have to loose at this point. We know Taylor will just continue to hold the ball and hold the ball and not take any chances, unless his receivers are wide open. What ever happen to throwing the ball before the receiver makes his cut. How about throwing over the middle. I think the BILLS O-LINE IS PRETTY AMAZING, TAYLOR HOLDS THE BALL LONGER THEN ANY STARTER IN THE NFL. Taylor is pretty good but he can not carry you when the other team knows he is in must pass mode. We need a tall QB with large body that can make those tight window throws and throw with anticipation. That is what Cardale Jones is and he is also good at taking off and running when he has too based on his QB play at Ohio State. Hey guys bold moves require guts and bold thinking. After we loose to Pittsburgh it will be time to do this move. It's too bad REX and are GM don't have the guts to do it now for the Steelers game. It only bolsters your argument, but Dak was a 4th round QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Interesting how many people still believe in unicorns. Agreed, anyone who still believes that Tyrod Taylor is going to turn into a good NFL QB probably need to get back on their meds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted December 5, 2016 Author Share Posted December 5, 2016 ok I stand corrected I thought he was 3rd round. Anyways it just proves my point if Dallas can start a 4th round Rookie QB, then so can the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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