BringBackOrton Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) To add gas to the fire of Gilmore haters: https://twitter.com/...854241055141888 Edited November 8, 2016 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 To add gas to the fire of Gilmore haters: https://twitter.com/...854241055141888 gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/11/3/13512946/2016-nfl-richard-sherman-conspiracy-seattle-seahawks-referees-roger-goodell?utm_campaign=sbnation.social&utm_medium=social&utm_content=sbnationnfl&utm_source=twitter not tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) Stephon has zero want to be here next year. Let him ride. Richard said "Yo boss, I just hit yo kicker harder than you hit anyone this year playa". Take my jersey and dream.....ima take yours and cut the bottom off cause ima needs some toilet paper bruh". Edited November 8, 2016 by Bubba Gump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sorry guys but that was a completely legal heads-up play by Sherman, QB is out of the pocket, no more illegal contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Sorry guys but that was a completely legal heads-up play by Sherman, QB is out of the pocket, no more illegal contact. Personal fouls don't end there. That was a bull **** play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Personal fouls don't end there. That was a bull **** play. Maybe you could get him on a defenseless player call because Powell wasn't attempting to block Sherman but I don't see the official calling that, not at the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Regarding the Sherman play....again.... When someone is trying to block a kick, whether punt or field goal, doesn't the player trying to make the block launch himself in the air to try and block the kick at his highest point? Richard Sherman dove at Carpenters knees. I saw no attempt whatsoever to make a play to block a kick. He went low, not like he was trying to block a ball off a kickers foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This is being discussed in like 3 other places Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Regarding the Sherman play....again.... When someone is trying to block a kick, whether punt or field goal, doesn't the player trying to make the block usually launch himself in the air to try and block the kick at it's highest point? Richard Sherman dove at Carpenters knees. I saw no attempt whatsoever to make a play to block a kick. He went low, not like he was trying to block a ball off a kickers foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Watch it again. He's going for the ball. Carpenter kicks into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 On my phone, trying to navigate this site sucks. Sorry for the repetitiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Regarding the Sherman play....again.... When someone is trying to block a kick, whether punt or field goal, doesn't the player trying to make the block usually launch himself in the air to try and block the kick at it's highest point? Richard Sherman dove at Carpenters knees. I saw no attempt whatsoever to make a play to block a kick. He went low, not like he was trying to block a ball off a kickers foot. That shouldn't even matter where he intended to go or what he was intending to do. Whistle blown, play is dead. Hitting a player after a dead ball is a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 That shouldn't even matter where he intended to go or what he was intending to do. Whistle blown, play is dead. Hitting a player after a dead ball is a penalty. If everyone believed it was dead, why did Carp still kick it? The logic has to go both ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 You are taught to take the ball off the kickers foot. The kicker had not kicked the ball yet so the ball is on the ground. He reached for the ball on the ground which made his body hit the kicker. Unfortunately for him that should be 15 yards for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 If everyone believed it was dead, why did Carp still kick it? The logic has to go both ways How many kickers don't kick the ball when other teams call timeouts to freeze the kicker??? None. You are taught to take the ball off the kickers foot. The kicker had not kicked the ball yet so the ball is on the ground. He reached for the ball on the ground which made his body hit the kicker. Unfortunately for him that should be 15 yards for us I just always see players stretch out and get high to block kicks....not dive and go low near the kickers legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) If everyone believed it was dead, why did Carp still kick it? The logic has to go both ways It doesn't matter, the play is dead. He made contact with a player after the play was dead, that is a penalty. It's no different than if a runner who is pushing a pile, whistle blows the play dead for forward progress and a defensive player comes in after that still trying to stop him. The play is dead, player gets penalty. If Carp is a QB, that's a penalty. EDIT: And what does Carp kicking a ball have to do with hitting another player? Carp didn't hit Sherman, he didn't try to tackle a Seahawks defender. The logic does not go both ways. Edited November 8, 2016 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Nah, he was diving for the ball. Sherman got there so early that the ball was just touching Carpenter's foot near the ground at the time of contact, so it looks like he is going for the knee or foot or whatever. He's just reaching down to the ground basically to get the ball, b/c that is where it was at that moment. They are usually stretched out and diving into empty space to block a punt b/c that is the best they can do to get a piece of the ball, which has usually already left the kicker's foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I think being the only kicker makes him just as valuable as a QB on that play. If he was really hurt we would have been screwed. Refs need to protect the kicker at all costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 (edited) If everyone believed it was dead, why did Carp still kick it? The logic has to go both ways True, but then that is also the risk the kicker takes in getting hit. How many kickers don't kick the ball when other teams call timeouts to freeze the kicker??? None. Exactly, and when did you ever see them call a penalty for that? If they did they'd call that on every play of every game. What Carp has to do with it is he didn't try to kick the ball he never would have been in the position to be hit. It doesn't matter, the play is dead. He made contact with a player after the play was dead, that is a penalty. It's no different than if a runner who is pushing a pile, whistle blows the play dead for forward progress and a defensive player comes in after that still trying to stop him. The play is dead, player gets penalty. EDIT: And what does Carp kicking a ball have to do with hitting another player? Carp didn't hit Sherman, he didn't try to tackle a Seahawks defender. The logic does not go both ways. Edited November 8, 2016 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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