The Poojer Posted December 6, 2016 Author Share Posted December 6, 2016 Words fail me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 How can this team look so bad on offense? No one except Coleman of all guys can score? Not sure about that foul call at the end on battle; too close to call that. This team will be lucky to be on the bubble at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its incredulous that Boeheim actually said he had a good team this year. He NEVER gives his team any praise. The second he does, they bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Its incredulous that Boeheim actually said he had a good team this year. He NEVER gives his team any praise. The second he does, they bomb. I pay attention to this thread because I really want SU to come to Buffalo because it helps business. On page 3, I thought this was a sure thing. WTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Haha, okay so I was wrong, brutal game to watch. This Cuse team has some serious problems. That was not a good Ucon team. Hopefully JB figures this thing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Haha, okay so I was wrong, brutal game to watch. This Cuse team has some serious problems. That was not a good Ucon team. Hopefully JB figures this thing out. I could accept that, except they are really good. There is no excuse for them to go so cold on offense with all those scorers. Part of the issue is that they seem to fall in love with the 3 too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Uggh....on a train headed back home as I write this. Obviously a horrendous performance last night. No semblance of a half-court offense. I thought the foul on Battle at the end of the game was BS, however, we didn't deserve to win anyway. For anyone who hasn't been to MSG in a while I recommend you check out a Knicks or Rangers game if you are in NYC. They pretty much gutted and re-did the place 3 years ago and it is looking great. There is not a bad seat in the house, everything is very modern looking and clean, and the food/drinks are exceptional. Plus, the acoustics and sound system in there are awesome. We ended up with pretty good 100 level seats. One gripe about the Syracuse students....the student section was completely empty. UCONN students came out in droves and they were very, very loud. I know UCONN is just a short train ride away from MSG, but really? It was pretty disappointing. The Syracuse cheerleaders were not even there and we were considered the home team. Very frustrating game to watch. Does JB even know how to coach offense? There was nothing going on. No movement. No picks or screens. No low post game. Lydon was being covered most of the game by a 6'4" guard, and they refused to give him the ball around the foul line. Shooting was terrible. It's going to be a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Right now, a few too many players in new roles on this team -- whether that means new starter (Howard), new to Syracuse and the zone (White, Gillon), newly counted on to be a star (Lydon), new to college (Battle, Thompson), etc. The biggest help they can get right now is Lydon breaking out and becoming a star that everyone hoped he'd be this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Right now, a few too many players in new roles on this team -- whether that means new starter (Howard), new to Syracuse and the zone (White, Gillon), newly counted on to be a star (Lydon), new to college (Battle, Thompson), etc. The biggest help they can get right now is Lydon breaking out and becoming a star that everyone hoped he'd be this season. I think the problem may be deeper than this, sadly. Frankly, I just don't think Gillon is very good. Frank is better, but is inconsistent and erratic. Andrew White looks like a one trick pony. Decent spot shooter, but can't make his own shots off the dribble. I don't know what Lydon's deal, but I actually think his best college position is at the 5. I'm not sure if he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA (hence I don't think he will leave early). Roberson is terrible offensively, and all of a sudden, is ineffective on the boards. Again, there is virtually no movement on offense and almost no low-post game to speak of. Things are not looking good, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 This stinks. We come on here every day and gripe about the crappy play of the bills. This thread was supposed to be a small bright spot for me this year. Now SU's fate is likely even worse than the Bills'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 On a positive note, we may have Lydon for another year 😯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 (edited) I think the problem may be deeper than this, sadly. Frankly, I just don't think Gillon is very good. Frank is better, but is inconsistent and erratic. Andrew White looks like a one trick pony. Decent spot shooter, but can't make his own shots off the dribble. I don't know what Lydon's deal, but I actually think his best college position is at the 5. I'm not sure if he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA (hence I don't think he will leave early). Roberson is terrible offensively, and all of a sudden, is ineffective on the boards. Again, there is virtually no movement on offense and almost no low-post game to speak of. Things are not looking good, I've been saying the same thing about Gillon but all my friends/everyone in my office just says he needs time. Time for what? He's a fifth year senior who has hit his ceiling and that ceiling is not that high. Add to that, he's coming to a team that has no offensive gameplan other than running around hoping someone gets open. Lydon had a smaller man on him for much of the game and they weren't running plays to get him the ball. They never f#%$ing run any plays. I blame Boeheim for the lack of any half court offense. Other coaches get more offensively out of less talented players, and it's because they actually design offenses. Very frustrated by this stretch of games. Edited December 7, 2016 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I could accept that, except they are really good. There is no excuse for them to go so cold on offense with all those scorers. Part of the issue is that they seem to fall in love with the 3 too much. I don't know man, you guys follow Cuse a hell of a lot closer than I do but doesn't it concern you that they have only played 3 legit NCAA Tournament teams this year(I guess you could throw Monmouth in that discussion too) & they have lost to all three of them. Beating Holy Cross, SC State & Colgate will not get you very far come selection time in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I think the problem may be deeper than this, sadly. Frankly, I just don't think Gillon is very good. Frank is better, but is inconsistent and erratic. Andrew White looks like a one trick pony. Decent spot shooter, but can't make his own shots off the dribble. I don't know what Lydon's deal, but I actually think his best college position is at the 5. I'm not sure if he will be able to play the 3 in the NBA (hence I don't think he will leave early). Roberson is terrible offensively, and all of a sudden, is ineffective on the boards. Again, there is virtually no movement on offense and almost no low-post game to speak of. Things are not looking good, Things are never as good as they seem when going well (see first few pages of this thread), and I doubt things will continue as bad as they've been the past few games. Get more from Lydon and Roberson and Cuse will be a solid NCAA team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Things are never as good as they seem when going well (see first few pages of this thread), and I doubt things will continue as bad as they've been the past few games. Get more from Lydon and Roberson and Cuse will be a solid NCAA team. Indeed. This team will undoubtedly improve over the course of the season....especially on defense The question is will they improve enough in time to build a resume for the NCAA tournament. After watching them play against teams like UCONN, I have nightmares about teams like UNC, Duke, Louisville, Notre Dame and Virginia. Not to mention "middle of the pack" teams like Miami, VA Tech, Florida State, and Pitt. I just don't see this team coming together in time. Watching this team closely, they lack leadership. Perhaps more importantly, they appear to lack intensity. They look tentative and almost ambivalent out there. It seems like no one other than AW3 wants to shoot, and he alone cannot carry this team on his back...even on a very good night. We need more out of Lydon, we need much more out of Battle who seems capable but lacks confidence, and we need TRoberson to man up and bang some bodies out there. Howard also needs to show more discipline, and needs to drive and dish more often. He just stands out there waiting for someone to get open. A lot needs to happen to get this team on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Looking a lot better today. Also, was the first time I'd heard of this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 UCONN beat BU 50-49 a few weeks ago, and we hang 99 on them today. Thompson and Gillon both go off. This team is so schizophrenic 😟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I was thinking that Thompson is the ultimate zone buster during the UConn game. He got a chance to prove that today. Get him in the middle of the offense, hitting 15-footers, and teams won't zone us anymore. Defense was better too, except for letting that one dude hit 10 3s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I was thinking that Thompson is the ultimate zone buster during the UConn game. He got a chance to prove that today. Get him in the middle of the offense, hitting 15-footers, and teams won't zone us anymore. Defense was better too, except for letting that one dude hit 10 3s. I think Thompson is going to be a star if he stays in school and develops properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I think Thompson is going to be a star if he stays in school and develops properly. Yeah just think of all the players that did that in recent memory. Malachi, McCullough, Ennis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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