Nihilarian Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) So you're using the game where Kyle got hurt as your proof that the scheme didn't work? You still didn't read the article from a known ex NFL player who actually watch the game film and reported on it and not some guy who thinks he knows whats happening on the field and talks about it on his blog! Since you refuse to read it, allow me to post a segement or two. " It's much worse than just Ryan having his best pass rushers dropping into coverage too much rather than actually, yanno, pass rushing. One edge guy, either Williams or Hughes, generally gets to stand up and either set the edge/pass rush on the edge or drop into coverage when they line up in a base 3-4. The other edge rusher often has to line up on the offensive tackle rather than being on an edge. That's pretty much the opposite of an ideal situation for most highly skilled pass rushers." "Even having Mario Williams, a human cheat code with his ridiculous combination of size, strength and athletic ability, two-gapping an offensive tackle is a pretty dumb thing to do on a regular basis because it's obvious he doesn't like doing it! I greatly admire Williams' game, but he's just not that guy who wants to be lined up head-up and wrestle with a 300-pounder all game." "I say all that to point out that Rex Ryan put his best pass rushers in a sub-optimal position to rush the passer for most of the game. The payoff was that his secondary still couldn't consistently force Dalton to go through more than his first couple reads before finding someone open, many times wide open." I just don't get how you could read those statements from an ex NFL DE and come away thinking it's the injuries and not the scheme or how the players are being utilized the majority of the time. And are totally discounting the data that shows that the main complaints were unfounded and that Mario & Marcel were not held back from the pass rush? Exactly which data supports this, please link the quote... nevermind. Or that the DL grumblings came out early in the preseason and only Mario complained during the regular season? What difference does this make as it was the Bills best defensive player who was first grumbling about how he was being utilized in Ryan's scheme. Which pretty much supports my arguement. Or that you haven't accounted at all for the offensive game plans which totally neutered a pass rush? There is no question that the offenses game plan did have an effect on games and for specific reasons which basically supports my arguement that it was Ryan's scheme and not just the injuries. Ryan seems intent on trying to scheme his opponents rather than just his letting his players play. Or that you're bringing up Rex's fine game plan for the 2nd Pats* game that got blown out of the water because Mario blew his coverage of the RB flare out? Rex did manage to get pressure on Brady in that 2nd Patriots game, all game. And to the tune of around 50% of Brady's pass dropbacks so much so that Tommy boy was literally screaming at his O-linemen on the sidelines! So, the pass rush worked when the coaches wanted it to work. Anyway, after this post, I'm done attempting to convince you of anything as you just seem to want to refute what I say rather than acknowledge what an actual ex-NFL player is saying or what's actually happening on the field. Peace out. Edited September 26, 2016 by Nihilarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Maybe in the gameday program in New England this weekend? I hate when TBD makes me laugh. Because then someone asks why I'm laughing. And I'm literally unable to explain it,because they're never a Bills fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 He is a pro bowler when used in a one-gap 3-4 like he was yesterday and he is a bad fit in a 3-4 two-gap like he was mostly used in last year. There was a real reason why the team fell on it's face in sacks last year and it had nothing to do with the players. He was one of the highest rated players in our defense last year before the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Nobody is defending Rex's defense last year. I am hammering a broken record false narrative though. Nobody is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I'm not a jersey guy, but if I were to pick a current Bill, Kyle would be my guy. Besides, Williams seems appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Who are we talking about? Kyle Williams and Mario Williams, our best defensive player the previous season. Not having Aaron Williams hurt as well given how Ryan plays his safeties. He needed to establish a rapport with Graham. Looks like we are starting to flatten out that curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 He was a monster!!! Cant wait for MD to get back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Nobody is? Not really. The difference is, some self proclaimed experts attribute it to the jingoistic excuse that Rex didn't let his pass rushers free reign, while others are looking at a bunch of little things that Rex did wrong, along with injuries that in combination, led the D to a huge drop off. The biggest fault was not getting the players to fully buy into his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 ...it was obvious yesterday. Amazing what being healthy does for a player. Enjoy Pats*** week, fans. Kyle can play in any defense, although standing him up 5 yrds behind the line negated his quickness and strength off the line rendering him useless as a pass rusher. I'm not a jersey guy, but if I were to pick a current Bill, Kyle would be my guy. Besides, Williams seems appropriate. Best 5th round pick in Bills history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 @buffalobillsPR A scoring change from Sunday... @buffalobills DT Kyle Williams has now been credited with a full sack at the 8:04 mark of the first quarter. With that change, Kyle is now tied with Sherman White (37.0 sacks) for eighth place all-time in @buffalobills history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) @buffalobillsPR A scoring change from Sunday... @buffalobills DT Kyle Williams has now been credited with a full sack at the 8:04 mark of the first quarter. With that change, Kyle is now tied with Sherman White (37.0 sacks) for eighth place all-time in @buffalobills history. next sack and a half matches him with ol 56 who was wearing Spider-Man compression shirts way before they were cool Edited September 28, 2016 by over 20 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 @salsports Kyle Williams was on the field for 64/82 snaps. Many of them he was the only DL. And he was maybe the best player on the field. Crazy. I,don't know if it's "crazy" I find Kyle year in and year out ( injury year aside) as always one of the if not the best player out there. His effort is unreal. He was pretty vocal last Sunday besides his play. I remember I think it was New England at home last year. He came out of the tunnel with crutches and wearing brown Carhart's a great look for him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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