/dev/null Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 CNN is giving Johnson/Weld an hour long town hall tonite. Media must be sweating Hiliary's numbers to give the Libertarians a platform to siphon Republican/Independents that weren't gonna vote for her anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 CNN is giving Johnson/Weld an hour long town hall tonite. Media must be sweating Hiliary's numbers to give the Libertarians a platform to siphon Republican/Independents that weren't gonna vote for her anyway I can't believe it took Weld a whole 9 minutes to use the "pocketbooks and bedrooms" line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Johnson/Weld are at 11-13% in CNN, NBC, and CBS polling. At 15%, they get to the debate stage, and that's also going to be the breaking point for the media to start covering them. I'm not sure they can do it but their ideas are more grown up than Trump's and their characters less questionable than Clinton's. If there's going to be a Libertarian president, this is a better chance than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 Johnson/Weld are at 11-13% in CNN, NBC, and CBS polling. At 15%, they get to the debate stage, and that's also going to be the breaking point for the media to start covering them. I'm not sure they can do it but their ideas are more grown up than Trump's and their characters less questionable than Clinton's. If there's going to be a Libertarian president, this is a better chance than others. He needs to be down in Philadelphia shaking hands and kissing babies, especially with all of the DNC vs Bernie stuff, and the scores of Bernie supporters that will be causing trouble there. Stein probably will be. I'm not sure Johnson will, although he was in Cleveland for most of last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 He needs to be down in Philadelphia shaking hands and kissing babies, especially with all of the DNC vs Bernie stuff, and the scores of Bernie supporters that will be causing trouble there. Stein probably will be. I'm not sure Johnson will, although he was in Cleveland for most of last week. He's less likely to win the disenfranchised Sanders people but I agree: He should be there. He needs to get media time and that will spike his numbers, at least until the unfavorable stories come. He should be able to garner support from Independents and Repubs with brains. Not sure he can draw much on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 What is his position on the 2A and border security/ illegal immigration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 From Wiki Immigration[edit]Johnson believes two approaches to immigration should be implemented: (1) "simplify legal immigration" and (2) "tackle illegal immigration."[51] He says, "Immigration into the United States by ambitious, willing workers and their families is a good thing. Not only is it a historical and energizing part of American culture and experience, it is vital to our economy. These positive benefits should not be sacrificed or reduced in any solution to stop illegal immigration."[52] Johnson favors issuing work visas, rather than granting amnesty citizenship or permanent residency, to people who want to work in the United States so that they pay payroll and income taxes,[7] and favors a two-year grace period to current illegal immigrants to obtain these visas.[51] He would require background checks of visa applicants,[51] because federal "authorities do need to know who is crossing our borders and be able to prevent criminals from entering the country."[52] He believes that, once a worker obtains a visa, the worker "should have access to the normal procedures for gaining permanent status and citizenship, and should be able to bring their families to the U.S. after demonstrating ability to support them financially."[51] Johnson does not support immigration quotas.[7] Under the present system, Johnson does not support "cracking down" on illegal immigration or creating penalties for businesses that hire undocumented immigrants.[7] Instead, he believes the work visa program will reduce illegal immigration.[51] But once the program is implemented, he believes in enforcing "a 'one strike, you're out' rule for immigrants who circumvent the" work visa process,[51] as well as imposing and enforcing "sanctions on employers for noncompliance with immigration laws.[51] Johnson opposes building a fence or wall along the Mexican border or placing National Guard units there,[7] because "security measures along the borders are just not enough" and "do not completely solve the immigration problem."[52] He believes that much of the Mexican-American border problems are due to drug prohibition, and that ending the prohibition of marijuana and the War on Drugs would end 75% of the violence along the border.[7][46][51] Johnson opposed Arizona SB 1070, and says he would have vetoed it were he the governor, though he understands and supports the spirit behind it. He says that the bill was devastating to drawing business to Arizona and believes the bill will create racial discrimination.[7] Gun rights[edit]Johnson does not believe in limiting the types or sizes of guns that private citizens can own. He believes the Second Amendment is "clear," and establishes an individual right for citizens.[7] Johnson has stated he is open for debate on the subject of gun control and is open to a discussion on preventing those the government deems mentally ill from possessing weapons.[39] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 If we're going to legalize weed, the open borders will help lower the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 If we're going to legalize weed, the open borders will help lower the price.Actually, the lowered risk from legalization and the fact that it will be passing through fewer hands due to the possibility of local production will help lower prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Actually, the lowered risk from legalization and the fact that it will be passing through fewer hands due to the possibility of local production will help lower prices. And create jobs for taxpayers, not drug dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 And create jobs for taxpayers, not drug dealers.And separate the marijuana market from the narcotics market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 And create jobs for taxpayers revenue producers, not drug dealers undocumented pharmacists. The first step is to re-label the players to be less scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 It's awesome that following the schitshows that gave us Trump and Clinton, the media stories this week are about how you can't waste a vote on a third party and how third parties can't govern. That's rich. At least it's finally some press for Johnson. Keep it coming media. Bad press has been working wonders for Trump so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Second town hall for Johnson on CNN tonight at 9PM ET. Last one got decent ratings for a 3rd party candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Libertarian Gary Johnson: "Religious freedom, as a category" is "a black hole" http://washex.am/2aliPaj Funny, that's where my chance of voting for Johnson went, with this ridiculous BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) Libertarian Gary Johnson: "Religious freedom, as a category" is "a black hole" http://washex.am/2aliPaj Funny, that's where my chance of voting for Johnson went, with this ridiculous BS What a moron. Are there any "libertarians" who actually know what rights are? Edited August 3, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 What a moron. Are there any "libertarians" who actually know what rights are? You mean like freedom of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You mean like freedom of religion? If I had a nickel for every person who misunderstands what the Founding Fathers meant by Freedom of Religion I'd be a very very rich man. And who knows....maybe I'd owe myself a nickel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) Libertarian Gary Johnson: "Religious freedom, as a category" is "a black hole" http://washex.am/2aliPaj Funny, that's where my chance of voting for Johnson went, with this ridiculous BS I made this point above: Johnson is the best candidate but he's a lightweight. Heavier than Trump (who isn't) but he doesn't have the mental engine. And I'm voting for him! Edited August 4, 2016 by Observer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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