thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So I guess there might be a world in which Thomas falls to us. Have him go for Brady every play in those two games this year I suppose. R1P1 EDGE MYLES GARRETT CLEVELAND BROWNS R1P2 QB MITCH TRUBISKY SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS R1P3 QB DESHAUN WATSON CHICAGO BEARS R1P4 TE O.J. HOWARD JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS R1P5 S MALIK HOOKER TENNESSEE TITANS R1P6 S JAMAL ADAMS NEW YORK JETS R1P7 WR MIKE WILLIAMS LA CHARGERS R1P8 EDGE DEREK BARNETT CAROLINA PANTHERS R1P9 EDGE HAASON REDDICK CINCINNATI BENGALS R1P10 EDGE SOLOMON THOMAS BUFFALO BILLS YOUR PICKS 1: R1P10 EDGE SOLOMON THOMAS STANFORD 2: R2P12 LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM VANDERBILT 3: R3P11 WR ZAY JONES EAST CAROLINA 4: R5P12 CB RASUL DOUGLAS WEST VIRGINIA 5: R5P27 S JOHN JOHNSON BOSTON COLLEGE 6: R6P11 TE COLE HIKUTINI LOUISVILLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills have a visit scheduled for tomorrow, 4/20 at Clemson to meet with Deshaun Watson. Imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Visit on 4/20? He'll light it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Matt MillerVerified account @nfldraftscout 5m5 minutes ago More A week+ from the draft, so a lot could change, but it definitely sounds like the #Browns are trying to move up from 12 for Trubisky 10 replies13 retweets9 likes Reply 10 Retweet 13 Like 9 Matt MillerVerified account @nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago More I've heard Tennessee (5) and Jets (6) are targets to get the Browns ahead of Buffalo for Trubisky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Matt MillerVerified account @nfldraftscout 5m5 minutes ago More A week+ from the draft, so a lot could change, but it definitely sounds like the #Browns are trying to move up from 12 for Trubisky 10 replies13 retweets9 likes Reply 10 Retweet 13 Like 9 Matt MillerVerified account @nfldraftscout 4m4 minutes ago More I've heard Tennessee (5) and Jets (6) are targets to get the Browns ahead of Buffalo for Trubisky. Interesting--in my most recent mock attempt, I had them moving up to 7 with SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Interesting--in my most recent mock attempt, I had them moving up to 7 with SD I don't think SD moves back unless both Safeties are already gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'm hoping that NY and Tennesee will be asking too much and Cleveland will come crawling back to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I'm hoping that NY and Tennesee will be asking too much and Cleveland will come crawling back to us. Not bloody likely...if they're trying to move up, then it's more than likely us that they're trying to get ahead of IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not bloody likely...if they're trying to move up, then it's more than likely us that they're trying to get ahead of IMO If the Bills see a franchise QB they need to not get outgunned by Cleveland. Time to call and ask the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If the Bills see a franchise QB they need to not get outgunned by Cleveland. Time to call and ask the price. Agreed. No stone un-turned, you gotta take a shot. Even if it's an early 4th rounder from Cleveland and you snag Peterman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 If the Bills see a franchise QB they need to not get outgunned by Cleveland. Time to call and ask the price. The Bills don't have the ammo to contend with Cleveland if they decide to move up. If option A is not there then go with option B. The top four qb prospects or more have different attributes but can also turn out in time to be good players. I wouldn't be adverse with a modest trade down and select Mahomes or Watson or Kizer or Webb. The problem with the Bills is they are not adept at maneuvering in the draft. At times Whaley gratuitously gives up picks to move slightly up and at times when the opportunity exists to slide down and acquire assets he stolidly stays in place. He doesn't seem to know the difference between thinking strategically as opposed to tactically. He acts as if he is a checker player at a chess game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The Bills don't have the ammo to contend with Cleveland if they decide to move up. If option A is not there then go with option B. The top four qb prospects or more have different attributes but can also turn out in time to be good players. I wouldn't be adverse with a modest trade down and select Mahomes or Watson or Kizer or Webb. The problem with the Bills is they are not adept at maneuvering in the draft. At times Whaley gratuitously gives up picks to move slightly up and at times when the opportunity exists to slide down and acquire assets he stolidly stays in place. He doesn't seem to know the difference between thinking strategically as opposed to tactically. He acts as if he is a checker player at a chess game. I think if Cleveland wants Trubisky we can land Mahomes. Time for us to figure out what is happening and not be left standing when the music stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 The best case scenario for us would be Cleveland staying put and someone like Arizona or Houston getting front of them (at 10). Cleveland has all of the ammo and can pretty much do whatever. If Cleveland goes to 7 we can probably forget about going back to 13. I suppose 25 could still be on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I think if Cleveland wants Trubisky we can land Mahomes. Time for us to figure out what is happening and not be left standing when the music stops. You and I know very well that the Bills are not going to use their first pick on a qb. It's against their DNA. So don't expect this franchise to act out of character. It's not going to happen. The patchwork mentality will prevail. Accept it or be angry. The best case scenario for us would be Cleveland staying put and someone like Arizona or Houston getting front of them (at 10). Cleveland has all of the ammo and can pretty much do whatever. If Cleveland goes to 7 we can probably forget about going back to 13. I suppose 25 could still be on the table. Because none of the qbs are considered elite prospects it is difficult to project who is going to jump up or down. I think that there are so many good defensive players that a lot of teams would love to trade down with fewer teams willing to give up assets to move up. This is a draft where quantity of picks is a good position to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Because none of the qbs are considered elite prospects it is difficult to project who is going to jump up or down. I think that there are so many good defensive players that a lot of teams would love to trade down with fewer teams willing to give up assets to move up. This is a draft where quantity of picks is a good position to be in. I agree and think that most assume Cleveland will be taking a QB at 12. That is likely the first QB off of the board IMO. I could see them trying to go to 5 and if they think that the Jets are an option. Otherwise teams that want a QB (Arizona and Houston come to mind) will probably need to get ahead of Cleveland if Trubisky is their guy. 10 would seem to be in play but I doubt that we are the only team looking to trade back. This year feels like a year that you will get more value coming up than going back (like the Dion Jordan trade even though it didn't work out). Even still I would like to go back and take the best offer that you can get. The strength of this draft appears to be on day 2. If you can get another day 2 pick to slide back 3 spots I would pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not bloody likely...if they're trying to move up, then it's more than likely us that they're trying to get ahead of IMO So they took the bait that we are taking a QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 So they took the bait that we are taking a QB? I think they're trying to make sure that they get both of the guys that they want. They absolutely must take Garrett at 1 if they want him, because there's no conceivable way he gets passed 2 as the best player in the draft. So if they want Trubisky as well, and they want to make sure they get him, they should trade up in front of any team that looks likely to take a QB. They obviously feel that SF and Chicago won't, so logically you'd look at Tennessee, who has Mariota and has a history of draft-day trades with Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bills have a visit scheduled for tomorrow, 4/20 at Clemson to meet with Deshaun Watson. Imo Is this more smokescreen or are they actually interested? If the latter, do they actually think he's falling to #44, because he isn't. If the former, I think its overkill at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 (edited) I think they're trying to make sure that they get both of the guys that they want. They absolutely must take Garrett at 1 if they want him, because there's no conceivable way he gets passed 2 as the best player in the draft. So if they want Trubisky as well, and they want to make sure they get him, they should trade up in front of any team that looks likely to take a QB. They obviously feel that SF and Chicago won't, so logically you'd look at Tennessee, who has Mariota and has a history of draft-day trades with Cleveland. It would seem that the Jets are a potential landing spot for Trubisky. Is it just me, but I have a feeling that San Francisco may take him at 2. If that happened we could see a run on QBs and where does Solomon Thomas go is the question. I guess Tenn if they don't go Allen Garrett-cle, Trubisky-sf, Lattimore-chi, Fournette-jax, Allen-ten, Adams-nyj, Hooker-lac, McCaffery-car, Ross-cin...... Is this more smokescreen or are they actually interested? If the latter, do they actually think he's falling to #44, because he isn't. If the former, I think its overkill at this point. Could that be for the benefit of #25 Houston seeing? Edited April 19, 2017 by horned dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It would seem that the Jets are a potential landing spot for Trubisky. Is it just me, but I have a feeling that San Francisco may take him at 2. If that happened we could see a run on QBs and where does Solomon Thomas go is the question. I don't see Trubisky going to SF, but John Lynch has no draft record, so SF is a bit of a wildcard. That said, with reports running rampant that SF wants to move down from the 2 slot, it makes me believe that they don't love any QB enough to take him there. Suppose, however, that they do take Trubisky at No. 2...I would guess that Chicago would take Thomas. I feel fairly certain that he'd never get passed Tennessee at No. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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