Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 They have been sold on the importance of drafting from a good QB class. I could care less if I get a guy with franchise potential if his class is poor. If I get a franchise guy and everyone else gets a lemon I'm fine! Bills are nowhere without a QB. We don't have the guy on the roster now. If we don't get a QB some fans will cheer for losses to get a top 5 pick. That's the silver lining, not another no QB 6 or 7 win season. The Dolphins, Texans and Chiefs went to the playoffs with worse QB play last year. TT is 15-14 so it is closer to 8-8 than 6-10. You don't need to exaggerate. We know that you want a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 The Dolphins, Texans and Chiefs went to the playoffs with worse QB play last year. TT is 15-14 so it is closer to 8-8 than 6-10. You don't need to exaggerate. We know that you want a QB. I see this as 5 to 6 win team. I think we peaked a few years ago and haven't replaced the talent that has left in the last few drafts. Last year was an awful draft. I have no interest in building a team that can at best sneak into the playoffs and then get its head caved in. I aim higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 There are a few guys that I think are Day 3 LBs that offer plenty of coverage ability. I would be absolutely fine with a guy like UCLA's Jayon Brown, either of the KSU guys (Elijah Lee or Charmeachealle Moore), and LSU's Duke Riley as guys that can contribute in sub-package looks. Perfect. Will keep an eye on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp2Warlick Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 39s39 seconds ago More #Bama CB Marlon Humphrey, a top player at his position, is visiting the #Bills today source said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I see this as 5 to 6 win team. I think we peaked a few years ago and haven't replaced the talent that has left in the last few drafts. Last year was an awful draft. I have no interest in building a team that can at best sneak into the playoffs and then get its head caved in. I aim higher. I don't disagree with that 2nd part (at all). I don't even necessarily disagree with the 1st part. I think that the talent (specifically on defense) has regressed. Hyde is a nice addition but they lost AW, Gilmore, ZB and Graham. I think that they are still missing a starting S, LB, CB and WR. I can't see them addressing them all without a trade back. Astro suggested 10 & 44 for 12 and 33 on Twitter. We'd still be short a pick in the 1st 2 days but you can start with something like Davis and Cunningham (or whatever). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I don't disagree with that 2nd part (at all). I don't even necessarily disagree with the 1st part. I think that the talent (specifically on defense) has regressed. Hyde is a nice addition but they lost AW, Gilmore, ZB and Graham. I think that they are still missing a starting S, LB, CB and WR. I can't see them addressing them all without a trade back. Astro suggested 10 & 44 for 12 and 33 on Twitter. We'd still be short a pick in the 1st 2 days but you can start with something like Davis and Cunningham (or whatever). And it's not just the starters. This team has zero depth. Even a couple injuries and we are battling for the bottom. We need two great drafts to become really competitive again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) And it's not just the starters. This team has zero depth. Even a couple injuries and we are battling for the bottom. We need two great drafts to become really competitive again. The depth isn't a huge issue to me. The OL is very deep (they will probably cut an NFL caliber player), the WR have a bunch of 3's and 4's they are missing a 2. If TD Mike is back they are fine at RB. Jordan Poyer is fine as the 3rd safety and Colt Anderson is back. They are thin at CB behind Seymour but if they added Verner (as an example) plus the draft pick they are fine there. The DL can use a situational pass rusher but maybe that Lorax. The LB corp is thin. The TE position needs help as well. One of Whaley's strengths has been depth signings like Zach Brown, Lorax and Groy. I wouldn't at all be surprised if some of the smaller signings exceed our expectations. If they can address those few starters the roster will be alright. If they can't though your point is well taken. They will bump reserves into starting roles and bums into reserve roles. They have to get those fixed. Edited April 12, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 QB interest is a smoke screen to get teams to bite on them early. Our 1st round targets will be WR (2) / TE (1) /DE (1) /CB (1) I have the names of our top five prospects and I will release them as we get closer to the draft. Later round info next week... Imo 2 freaking WRs. If it's true, we are still so so dumb. Not crazy about TE either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I have a feeling the TSW draft meltdown this year is going to be historically entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 2 freaking WRs. If it's true, we are still so so dumb. Not crazy about TE either.I think that what he is saying is that there are 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 DE and 1 CB being considered. Bandit has thought Ross was a possibility. I wonder if it is him or Williams & Davis? The TE is probably Howard from the reports. The CB could be Lattimore unless they have concerns about the hamstring. If that's the case it's probably Conley or Humphrey. The DE maybe Allen? maybe Barnett? Maybe Harris? Thomas and Garrett are probably gone. If I had to guess: Williams, Ross, Lattimore, Allen and Howard are the 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) I have a feeling the TSW draft meltdown this year is going to be historically entertaining. Let's guess, Williams, Davis, Howard, Garrett, Lattimore. I think that what he is saying is that there are 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 DE and 1 CB being considered. Bandit has thought Ross was a possibility. I wonder if it is him or Williams & Davis? The TE is probably Howard from the reports. The CB could be Lattimore unless they have concerns about the hamstring. If that's the case it's probably Conley or Humphrey. The DE maybe Allen? maybe Barnett? Maybe Harris? Thomas and Garrett are probably gone. If I had to guess: Williams, Ross, Lattimore, Allen and Howard are the 5. Yes, it might also be Conley and Harris. Bills were rumored early on to be interested in both. On second thought not Ross, Davis instead. Edited April 12, 2017 by horned dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Let's guess, Williams, Davis, Howard, Garrett, Lattimore. Yes, it might also be Conley and Harris. Bills were rumored early on to be interested in both. On second thought not Ross, Davis instead. I like Davis. Whaley has always targeted the big school guys early. That's the only reason I went another way. I'm just guessing though. Edited April 12, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think that what he is saying is that there are 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 DE and 1 CB being considered. Bandit has thought Ross was a possibility. I wonder if it is him or Williams & Davis? The TE is probably Howard from the reports. The CB could be Lattimore unless they have concerns about the hamstring. If that's the case it's probably Conley or Humphrey. The DE maybe Allen? maybe Barnett? Maybe Harris? Thomas and Garrett are probably gone. If I had to guess: Williams, Ross, Lattimore, Allen and Howard are the 5. I agree on your 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think the pass rusher is either Thomas (who is probably gone) or Bennett. I doubt they see Allen as a fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I think the pass rusher is either Thomas (who is probably gone) or Bennett. I doubt they see Allen as a fit here. Thomas is an absolutely perfect fit for McDermott's D...but yeah, he's in the conversation for the #2 overall pick, so very unlikely he's there at 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Thomas is an absolutely perfect fit for McDermott's D...but yeah, he's in the conversation for the #2 overall pick, so very unlikely he's there at 10 And they are apparently going for continuity on D in Carolina.... so he is a perfect fit there too. I am not as convinced about the fit in San Fran if I am honest but I see why that link has been made. Bennett is a better natural pass rusher for my money but he isn't the all around talent Thomas is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 I have seen Thomas quite a bit and he jumps out at me as a BIG game changer on D. He would really help McD get the D turned around. But, he'll be gone likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 @LedyardNFLDraft The more I watch this quarterback class, the more I understand why the NFL wasn't that high on it. Supposedly anyway Watson is still my top QB, I like his tape a lot. But Trubisky and Kizer have a lot of flaws that worry me. Mahomes is just inconsistent finally, a realistic statement If the Bills pass on a Mahomes or Trubisky to get a player like OJ or Corey Davis they are even dumber than I thought. If McDermott pulls a Dick Jauron draft and falls on his face then we hired the wrong guy. No it means he knows these QBs are bums and expect him to go defense at 10 I see this as 5 to 6 win team. I think we peaked a few years ago and haven't replaced the talent that has left in the last few drafts. Last year was an awful draft. I have no interest in building a team that can at best sneak into the playoffs and then get its head caved in. I aim higher. all true but none of these kids will be better than TT is now and probably wont be much better in the long run. The best thing that can happen to this team is rebuild the defense and have a poor record and draft Darnold. I have a feeling the TSW draft meltdown this year is going to be historically entertaining. based on picking who ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I think the pass rusher is either Thomas (who is probably gone) or Bennett. I doubt they see Allen as a fit here. Bennett is good would really rather have Thomas but like you say he will be gone. Here's hoping for a tradeback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 finally, a realistic statement No it means he knows these QBs are bums and expect him to go defense at 10 all true but none of these kids will be better than TT is now and probably wont be much better in the long run. The best thing that can happen to this team is rebuild the defense and have a poor record and draft Darnold. based on picking who ? it doesn't matter. Everyone already seems angry and it's 3 weeks away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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