SF Bills Fan Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm convinced the Pats have a Moneyball type system in place to some extent. They are canny at getting the perfect players that fit in their system. They have to be looking at specific metrics. That would explain why people thrive there and then are average when they leave that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm convinced the Pats have a Moneyball type system in place to some extent. They are canny at getting the perfect players that fit in their system. They have to be looking at specific metrics. That would explain why people thrive there and then are average when they leave that system. Stop overthinking the room... It is Brady. It is and has always been about Brady. Â And add a little bit of cutthroat mentality with their veteran players. Belichick has no problem letting go of the star veteran a year or two before they decline. He replaces them with a young guy or another veteran at a much lower cost. Or worst of all for the rest of the league, he gets a team to give up draft picks for an aging veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Stop overthinking the room... It is Brady. It is and has always been about Brady. Â And add a little bit of cutthroat mentality with their veteran players. Belichick has no problem letting go of the star veteran a year or two before they decline. He replaces them with a young guy or another veteran at a much lower cost. Or worst of all for the rest of the league, he gets a team to give up draft picks for an aging veteran. Â Bellicheat**** is playing Madden, because that is exactly what you do in that game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Business intelligence is why the Patriots have been as successful as they have been for nearly 20 years. Â I am very interested in what the Browns are doing. There are more layers to this than what's reported in the press of course. Â The NBA Spurs hired Kirk Goldsberry of Grantland fame for their analytical unit. Â One of the reasons the Pittsburgh Pirates got out of their hole was analytics. They embraced the defensive shift long before other teams began doing it. Dan Fox, one of their data guys, studied how often balls were hit to certain locations on the field. Business intelligence ???? I think 90% of their success has been Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Business intelligence ???? I think 90% of their success has been Brady. Â How many SBs did the Colts win with Manning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Â How many SBs did the Colts win with Manning? Â Would have won a lot more if Manning didn't choke away so many big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Â Would have won a lot more if Manning didn't choke away so many big games. Â It was also poor coaching. Slow Tony always rested his starters at the end of the season and that's why he had so many one and dones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 Â It was also poor coaching. Slow Tony always rested his starters at the end of the season and that's why he had so many one and dones. Â No question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm convinced the Pats have a Moneyball type system in place to some extent. They are canny at getting the perfect players that fit in their system. They have to be looking at specific metrics. That would explain why people thrive there and then are average when they leave that system. Â I think this is an interesting observation. Â I don't believe the story of the Pats success begins and ends with Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) Â Â Remind me to never get in an airplane with you. Â Â Â Nothing beats memories from growing up, especially with teams that you rooted for like crazy. those are 2 rough teams you chose; I really hope you a re a Yankees fan or something to help balance it out.... Â Unfortunately, by far the team I'm most emotionally invested in is the Bills. Second, is not even close. The only other pro teams I follow at all are the Sabres and Browns. Neither has won a championship in my lifetime. And I'm not quite old enough to remember when the Bills were winning AFL championships. Â And, by the way, I'm a Purdue alum... not much going on there either. Â Staying out of airplanes with me is a good idea. My Seattle friends are glad I don't root for the Seahawks. Â Back to the Brownies, we all know baseball lends itself to analytics better than football. Yet isn't it possible that DePodesta unearths some statistical tendencies that personnel departments in the past have not noticed? Â What really is the relationship between a QB's hand size and cold-weather success? How important is an OT's arm length actually? Is the 40 yard dash meaningful at all? Is there a better way to measure functional speed? Â Stats have been part of the NFL forever. I'm not convinced teams are always measuring and talking about the right stats, though. Edited April 12, 2016 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I'm convinced the Pats have a Moneyball type system in place to some extent. They are canny at getting the perfect players that fit in their system. They have to be looking at specific metrics. That would explain why people thrive there and then are average when they leave that system. Â No... They have Brady who takes little money instead of the money grubbing QBs in the league. Also not many players wouldn't want to play for Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 No... They have Brady who takes little money instead of the money grubbing QBs in the league. Also not many players wouldn't want to play for Brady. Â who takes little "official" money. The under the table money helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 @SiriusXMNFL #Browns want continuity in the team but @PatKirwanCBS says they're a long way off. AUDIO: http://bit.ly/1MuCGGe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 @alexmarvez Bill Parcells said he has spent 6 hours w/new @Browns executive Paul Depodesta discussing player scouting. Bill was impressed @SiriusXMNFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The Browns moneyball system is interesting in this year's draft- accumulate as many draft picks as you can in future drafts. My hunch is that this will pay off for them. It's a patience game but it just might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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