SydneyBillsFan Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here: A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism. An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism" Someone?...Anyone...? Edited June 5, 2020 by SydneyBillsFan 2
Jauronimo Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: More snide crap. Please show one comment from anyone in this thread stating any of the peaceful protests are illegitimate in any way. Indeed people have lamented looting and rioting but that is it. Your fake agreement, while you actually support the riots with is duly noted. Reveal hidden contents I don't really think you support the riots. I just said that to mirror your wise ass insinuations about what others "secretly" feel about peaceful protests. It's pretty see through. Get better at it or don't do it. Side point: Why do you think people are protesting in London and Paris? Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support. I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often. Tells you a little bit about the bias here. Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed. Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated. Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy. Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting. Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas." It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues. We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police. Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats. Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags. PPP needs to eat their own like the old days. Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills. In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction. I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here: A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism. An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism" Someone?...Anyone...? 1 1
unbillievable Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Crime goes down if you don't have police to document incidents. Proven by previous police strikes. (NYPD) Remove law enforcement from DC and there will be 0 arrests, and statistically no crimes committed. 1
unbillievable Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: How's the federal budget doing? An opportunist as she's eyeing that VP slot. Social Justice is more important than Social Distancing. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/public-health-protests-301534 1
Justice Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Troll Toll said: Fox News hypocrisy!?!? She is criticizing LBJ and KD for their support of the Chinese government’s oppression of its people. Those same guys turn around and whine about BLM. I mean really, who are the hypocrites? Can’t be a worse take on that video than this. It’s impossible. Criticize what LBJ says? Sure. Debate his remarks? That’s fine. Telling him to shut up and dribble? Not good. She can also just ignore him completely. Instead she said because LeBron ‘wasn’t elected and because he makes millions of dollars bouncing a ball’ he isn’t worthy of voicing an opinion. Hell thats fine too. But now she’s painted herself in a corner with every athlete and anyone else for that matter who isn’t ‘elected’. Treat them all the same no matter if you agree with them or not. What you don’t do is call Brees ‘a person’ (and LeBron isn’t?) who ‘has some value and is entitled to his opinions’, because she didn’t afford LeBron the same privilege. Disgusting!
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: I'll concede that living Down Under may just affect the oxygen flow to my brain so please - help me understand something here: A redneck hillbilly cop takes law enforcement (and disrespect) too far, which ends with 1 death - resulting in squillions of violent protestors and cries of racism. An evil communist regime deliberately masks the spread of a deadly pathogen resulting in over 350,000 deaths - zero protestors and cries of "racism" Someone?...Anyone...? ...because the anarchy and push for socialism has long been in the planning stages, only needing an incident to launch.....an incident was bound to happen in the vitriol of the US political climate....authority is at the top of their rebuke....rogue cops will always exist and need to be punished...perhaps a better screening process for applicants is needed..but that is not the sole source of our societal ills...we in business are all guilty of bad hires.......socialism levels the playing field of the capitalistic " go getters" to feed the millennial types who want more for doing less or even ANYTHING....and we're NOT even considering the current menu of public assistance...Big Fredo and NYS pays out 62+ BILLION annually.......income redistribution is precisely it......... 1
3rdnlng Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Illegitimate or invalid is a bit of an exaggeration on my part, but if you look at the attitudes expressed and the fact that this discussion (before there even was a single protester in the streets) was lumped into a thread titled "Liberal Protests" I think you'll find the issue underlying the protest has tepid support. I don't know if you've taken the temperature in here lately but I don't think Liberal is used positively very often. Tells you a little bit about the bias here. Page 356 has a few sterling examples where the reason for the protest is completely dismissed. Page 291 has the insinuation that is was a false flag and the rioting was all premeditated. Right at the start page 206, Never fail to take advantage of a tragedy. Page 216, pre-planned protests and rioting. Page 213 "Funny how there are no riots when one black person kills another black person on the street. Am I to assume that murdering black people is OK as long as another black person without a uniform does it? These guys should have bee protesting like this when all the jobs were getting shipped over seas." It doesn't take much reading between the lines to surmise what these people think about the issues. We have seen plenty of legitimate and informed discussion around the facts of whether black men are disproportionately killed by the police. Some in this thread do not think the protesters have much of a gripe based on facts and stats. Then you have the crazies in this forum who operate with impunity and post about false flags. PPP needs to eat their own like the old days. Bring back DC Tom and even that insufferable blowhard OCBills. In any event, the difference between the Hong Kong thread and this thread are striking (which was my whole point) and the law and order folks can't claim this is all about rioting, violence against cops, or property destruction. I believe the participants on this board have more sympathy for the citizens of Hong Kong than they do for their fellow Americans marching in streets and I think that has to do with the governments being protested and general views that BLM, police brutality, inequality, and injustice are a media creation. I for one have more sympathy for the Hong Kong protesters protesting for freedom than the violent protesters that are killing and injuring people, vandalizing and looting. The violent side of our domestic protesters are very well prepared to cause mayhem. Pallets of bricks being prepositioned around numerous cities seems to indicate a fair amount of premeditation. BTW, for those of you who keep pointing out all of the social injustice issues that blacks here in America are suffering from it should be noted that Trump's efforts have shepherded prison reform, better unemployment numbers and higher wages. The crazy Left has not only been opposing him since before he was sworn in but fighting him tooth and nail to reverse his policies. It's almost like those people wanted to keep blacks down on the plantation and dependent upon the Left to provide them minimum subsistence. 4 1 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Unforgiven said: See this is what these dopey liberals and the democrat politicians still don't get: THEY created Donald Trump....By their racism...focusing on races, genders, etc... what got lost, and completely ignored, and to some degree ignored with extreme bias... the white working class, no one is on their side. and the excuse? Well they are privileged so they can shut up and vote democrat or else. Yep. No self reflection on 2016. Instead just quadruple down on the same strategies that lost. 3
IYKYK Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, Justice said: Can’t be a worse take on that video than this. It’s impossible. Criticize what LBJ says? Sure. Debate his remarks? That’s fine. Telling him to shut up and dribble? Not good. She can also just ignore him completely. Instead she said because LeBron ‘wasn’t elected and because he makes millions of dollars bouncing a ball’ he isn’t worthy of voicing an opinion. Hell thats fine too. But now she’s painted herself in a corner with every athlete and anyone else for that matter who isn’t ‘elected’. Treat them all the same no matter if you agree with them or not. What you don’t do is call Brees ‘a person’ (and LeBron isn’t?) who ‘has some value and is entitled to his opinions’, because she didn’t afford LeBron the same privilege. Disgusting! Do you feel the same about the Drew Brees critics?
B-Man Posted June 5, 2020 Author Posted June 5, 2020 SOCIAL-DISTANCING IS FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE: and for those posters here who like to misconstrue what is being said to fit their own bias. I am in favor of the Floyd funeral. open everything back up. 5
Jauronimo Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I for one have more sympathy for the Hong Kong protesters protesting for freedom than the violent protesters that are killing and injuring people, vandalizing and looting. The violent side of our domestic protesters are very well prepared to cause mayhem. Pallets of bricks being prepositioned around numerous cities seems to indicate a fair amount of premeditation. BTW, for those of you who keep pointing out all of the social injustice issues that blacks here in America are suffering from it should be noted that Trump's efforts have shepherded prison reform, better unemployment numbers and higher wages. The crazy Left has not only been opposing him since before he was sworn in but fighting him tooth and nail to reverse his policies. It's almost like those people wanted to keep blacks down on the plantation and dependent upon the Left to provide them minimum subsistence. Hong Kong was anything but peaceful.
Justice Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, westside2 said: Do you feel the same about the Drew Brees critics? What Drew Brees said and did has absolutely nothing to do with Laura Ingraham. But since you asked I have nothing against what Drew said and I think his critics should chill the hell out. 3
B-Man Posted June 5, 2020 Author Posted June 5, 2020 Here are Trump's full comments this morning that the media twisted. It's insane that out of everything he says, this part was deemed as outrageous and offensive. All because people trusted to honestly inform the public choose to twist this message of unity into something divisive. Powerful, like his walk to St. John's Church, so it couldn't be permitted to go out without a spin. 2
Justice Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 7 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: There are literally over a million violent crimes that take place in this country every year. On average, there are 14,000-15,000 murders each year. The majority of the victims of those murders are black men. Young black men are being murdered at a disproportionate rate. In a five year span (2015-2019), over 35,000 black citizens have been murdered. Over 32,000 of those black murder victims were men, mostly young black men. The overwhelming majority of them are killed by other black citizens. As a society, we largely look away from it all. We don't hear black leaders or politicians giving impassioned speeches. We don't see protests and riots over the injustice. Until a black man is killed by the police. Of those 35,000 murdered, black citizens, approx 95% of those were killed by other black citizens. 1164 (3%) were killed by LE Officers. Of the over 32,000 of those black men that were murdered, approx 95% were killed by other black men. 1118 ((3%) were killed by LE Officers. Each year, over 6,400 black men are murdered and approx 223 (3%) of them are killed by LE Officers. These are fairly constant numbers, much like all violent crime. When we see what happened to someone like George Floyd, then society cares. They momentarily look at it as a tragic death at the hands of some men who, at best, were absolutely indifferent to his suffering and death. Then, it is no longer about George Floyd. The situation is co-opted and manipulated to fit agendas and narratives. Anger is stoked, someone must be blamed, and they must pay the consequences. The law enforcement community becomes the embodiment of every injustice they perceive - regardless of what the facts actually say. Then we finally have black leaders and politicians giving impassioned speeches, and society showing up in the streets to protest. They transfer responsibility and blame for their outrage onto good, decent men and women who do the best they can every single day. Others will take more drastic measures and cities will burn, businesses with be looted and destroyed, people will be assaulted, and people will be killed. All in the name of police brutality and their racial hatred and targeting of the black race. Meanwhile, blacks will still represent the majority of victims and offenders of violent crime in this country. Over 6,000 black men will be murdered again this year and 95% of them will be murdered by other black men. And society will look the other way.... I agree with just about everything you said. As far as the part in bold lettering how do we actually know that? Maybe it just isn’t publicized. Maybe it falls on deaf ears because the people that are hearing those speeches aren’t the ones that need to hear it.
IYKYK Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Justice said: What Drew Brees said and did has absolutely nothing to do with Laura Ingraham. But since you asked I have nothing against what Drew said and I think his critics should chill the hell out. In this day and age, everything gets compared. Like it or not, that's the game both sides play. I personally think they both have the right to speak their beliefs. Doesn't mean I have to like it. Was Laura Ingraham wrong for responding that way? No, once again, it's her right as a American to voice her opinion. Was Tre White wrong for criticizing Brees? Not my right to say. But I will defend his ability to voice his concerns whether I agree with him or not.
3rdnlng Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Hong Kong was anything but peaceful. My memory claims that the Hong Kong protests weren't anywhere near as violent as what we've been seeing here and that the government was the one that triggered the violence. 2
Justice Posted June 5, 2020 Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, westside2 said: In this day and age, everything gets compared. Like it or not, that's the game both sides play. I personally think they both have the right to speak their beliefs. Doesn't mean I have to like it. Was Laura Ingraham wrong for responding that way? No, once again, it's her right as a American to voice her opinion. Was Tre White wrong for criticizing Brees? Not my right to say. But I will defend his ability to voice his concerns whether I agree with him or not. Sure. It’s her right to be a hypocrite. I don’t see why not other than the fact she will lose viewers. I, for one, won’t be tuning into her show anymore and that’s my right. I already gave up on CNN. Tucker is the only guy I can tolerate at this point. Edited June 5, 2020 by Justice 1
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