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[Deranged Rhino]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

ARSON, BEATINGS AND COP-MURDER CAN LOSE YOU PUBLIC SYMPATHY. WHO KNEW? 

 

AP-NORC poll: Support for racial injustice protests declines.

 

 

 

 

 

[Sig1Hunter]

1 hour ago, Alaska Darin said:

Obviously you're not in law enforcement.

 

Reality check:  In order to obtain a warrant, you have to have probable cause.  In this instance, they had multiple times surveilled this perp and had patterns, which were in the warrant documentation. 

 

Patterns are the key.  If you have patterns, you can chose your arrest point based on them.  It's "generally" much easier to simply traffic stop or catch them as they leave the apartment building in a more controlled situation.  What they "decided" on was (seemingly) a fundamentally more risky course of action and it ended up with multiple high velocity rounds being sprayed around in a populated apartment complex.  It's stupid, lazy, and put a large number of innocent people in unnecessary danger. 

 

These senseless tactical decisions are the reason why inexperienced and stupid politicians feel the need to constantly tie cop's hands.

 

 

 

 

Wasn’t it a search warrant, and not an arrest warrant? If it was an arrest warrant, I agree - those are much safer served in an environment that is known and can more easily be controlled. If it was a search warrant, it needs to be served at the location to be searched.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[meazza]

16 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Wasn’t it a search warrant, and not an arrest warrant? If it was an arrest warrant, I agree - those are much safer served in an environment that is known and can more easily be controlled. If it was a search warrant, it needs to be served at the location to be searched.

 

From what I understand, this was in response to a drug related crime?

 

My stance will always be that drug laws are useless. 

[whatdrought]

59 minutes ago, bdutton said:

 

"Police suspected, according to the May report written by Jaynes, that Glover "may be keeping narcotics and/or proceeds from the sale of narcotics at (Taylor's apartment) for safekeeping."  A property seizure log completed after searching Taylor's apartment following the shooting listed no drugs or money."

 

Nothing was found.  The Detective responsible for writing and getting approval for the warrant was reassigned pending an investigation.  

 

Bottom line it was a shitshow but the cops getting punished (my point) are paying the price for bad intelligence.

That doesn’t mean they were in the wrong place or had bad information. They knew he had used her address for deliveries in the past- that was the importation they were working under. I’m not sure I get your point? 

[Joe Miner]

1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

I may be incorrect here, but I don’t think that was the premise the warrant was based on at all. My belief was they were searching Taylor’s house because she had acted as a mail service for the drug dealer who was her ex boyfriend. He had mail delivered to her place, picked it up, and then was followed directly to a stash house. 
 

Their search was in relation to that and trying to find additional evidence/components of his network.

 

That explains why the late night raid- as they had just arrested him and wanted to grab as many moving parts as possible. 

 

The first location raided did turn up money, drugs, and I believe guns.

 

It wasn’t a mistake they were at her place.  She was involved with the drug trade.  She was named as someone holding the money for those dealing. Her idiot past boyfriend identified her as such in phone calls he made from jail.  She rented a car that her drug dealing past boyfriend was using and one of his associates turned up dead in.  Her drug dealing past boyfriend was still using her apartment as his listed address and was having his mail delivered there.  They had surveillance of packages from the second location that was raided successfully going in and out of her place.

 

You don’t hear that on the news though.  
 

“Drug dealer shot in raid” doesn’t gin up nearly as much drama and outrage as “27 year old black EMT shot to death in her sleep during a botched police raid.”

[Alaska Darin]

1 minute ago, Joe Miner said:

“Drug dealer shot in raid” doesn’t gin up nearly as much drama and outrage as “27 year old black EMT shot to death in her sleep during a botched police raid.”

You got that right. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Alaska Darin said:

You got that right. 

Would you be saying that if they were trying to arrested the corporate CEO who was supplying the oxicontin 

 

Nope 

[RochesterRob]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Would you be saying that if they were trying to arrested the corporate CEO who was supplying the oxicontin 

 

Nope 

  Slow afternoon?  Maybe try cleaning up your room instead?

[whatdrought]

11 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Slow afternoon?  Maybe try cleaning up your room instead?

His mom handled that this morning so he’s good to go. 

[3rdnlng]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Would you be saying that if they were trying to arrested the corporate CEO who was supplying the oxicontin 

 

Nope 

Don't forget the pretzel avatar I gave you. It will fit in with all the pretzeling you do. 

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by 3rdnlng

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

21 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Slow afternoon?  Maybe try cleaning up your room instead?

 

...room?...he's a "cellar dweller".....SMH............

[Tiberius]

21 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Slow afternoon?  Maybe try cleaning up your room instead?

Thanks for allowing me to expand on my point. Darin has said before that’s hes a libertarian, who are against prohibition of drugs. But, it was a poor black drug dealer, not a huge, wealthy drug making company peddling its dope. Well, actually the ex-girlfriend of an alleged drug dealer already in custody. 

3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...room?...he's a "cellar dweller".....SMH............

Any proof for that you complete pos? 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

18 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Thanks for allowing me to expand on my point. Darin has said before that’s hes a libertarian, who are against prohibition of drugs. But, it was a poor black drug dealer, not a huge, wealthy drug making company peddling its dope. Well, actually the ex-girlfriend of an alleged drug dealer already in custody. 

Any proof for that you complete pos? 

 

....Fecal Freddie with his PM offering......ExLax worked.............

[RochesterRob]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Thanks for allowing me to expand on my point. Darin has said before that’s hes a libertarian, who are against prohibition of drugs. But, it was a poor black drug dealer, not a huge, wealthy drug making company peddling its dope. Well, actually the ex-girlfriend of an alleged drug dealer already in custody. 

Any proof for that you complete pos? 

  Being against drug prohibition is not the same as letting just anyone sell drugs.  Just like a grocer being tempted to sell goods that have non-obvious problems a drug dealer would be tempted to sell pot that may have residuals of herbicides in it or other contamination.  There is a reason we have the FDA among other agencies to regulate the sales of products that we consume into our bodies.  That aside there is not just one list that libertarian works off of as I know ones who do not favor unlimited distribution of drugs.  For the most part libertarians are against wide spread control by government.

[Alaska Darin]

45 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Slow afternoon?  Maybe try cleaning up your room instead?

Please stop feeding the dumb animals.  They quickly become dependent.

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Being against drug prohibition is not the same as letting just anyone sell drugs.  Just like a grocer being tempted to sell goods that have non-obvious problems a drug dealer would be tempted to sell pot that may have residuals of herbicides in it or other contamination.  There is a reason we have the FDA among other agencies to regulate the sales of products that we consume into our bodies.  That aside there is not just one list that libertarian works off of as I know ones who do not favor unlimited distribution of drugs.  For the most part libertarians are against wide spread control by government.

It’s just part of the war on the poor. Drug laws really are not aimed at keeping drugs away from people, they are aimed at f’n poor people over. That’s why the rich sell so many hard core drugs that are killing people. The war on drugs is a joke, but it gives people an excuse to blame the victim, like a girl asleep in her apartment who got killed for nothing. But drug dealer! Says the happy racist

6 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

....Fecal Freddie with his PM offering......ExLax worked.............

You are make dumdumb mad by replying to me, lol! 

[Foxx]

kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

 

 

3 hours ago, Alaska Darin said:

You got that right. 

https://youtu.be/L1t6fNnLOfo?t=33

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Foxx

[Bob&Doug]