Maury Ballstein Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Not even close. You simply choose to look at it that way so you can claim "trade victory!" 1st. kudos to the guys in the Bills organization for the trade victory. A few more "trade victories" would be welcome. 2nd. Eagles D stunk and they needed a linebacker. So to say they didn't care about Kiko is beyond laughable. They wanted to take a flier on the "legend" linebacker whose first 5 games were electric. Edited February 11, 2016 by Ryan L Billz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Like DeMarco Murray ? Like a previous poster said most of the "cap savings" attributable to trading away Shady got spent on another high priced FA RB. Didn't they actually sign both DeMarco and Ryan Mathews for the same cap hit as Shady? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I would take kiko back in a heartbeat if he was cut......those injuries take a year to fully heal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 The cap "relief" went to Run DMC. Who wants out of there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Jesus. McCoy beat someone up, he didn't kill anyone. He'll miss (my guess) 3-4 games and, barring injury, will likely be very effective in the rest. Twelve games of McCoy is better than 16 games of Alonso in any season on any team. A lot better. Agree with you 100% I like what I saw from Gillislee at the end of the season. Prepare him to be the feature back during the suspension with Karlos as the change of pace back. Also what happened to our rap lyrics debate DMX thread? that was fun. I just hope we dont blow a pick on a RB with the holes we need filled on the rest of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I know. Kiko seems to be a guy who can do well with a bit of a chip on his shoulder, so hopefully he finds it motivational. I don't know what other use it may be. That should keep him out for half the season... Jesus. McCoy beat someone up, he didn't kill anyone. He'll miss (my guess) 3-4 games and, barring injury, will likely be very effective in the rest. Twelve games of McCoy is better than 16 games of Alonso in any season on any team. A lot better. In 12 games, 6 were with fewer than 75 yards this season. 5 games with less than 4 YPC. In 9 he had fewer than 20 carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 That should keep him out for half the season... In 12 games, 6 were with fewer than 75 yards this season. 5 games with less than 4 YPC. In 9 he had fewer than 20 carries. So you're saying that in 12 games, 6 were with more than 75 yards ... 7 games he had more than 4 ypc and that he is in charge of calling plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 So you're saying that in 12 games, 6 were with more than 75 yards ... 7 games he had more than 4 ypc and that he is in charge of calling plays. No, I'm disagreeing with your claim that in 12 games he would be very effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 No, I'm disagreeing with your claim that in 12 games he would be very effective. He averaged 4.4 YPC this past season (0.2 YPC more than in 2014, so much for BADOL's graph), but had a little under 17 carries a game. If he had as many carries/game as he did in 2013 and 2014 (19.5), with that average, he'd have 1,033 in 12 games. Seems pretty effective to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 He averaged 4.4 YPC this past season (0.2 YPC more than in 2014, so much for BADOL's graph), but had a little under 17 carries a game. If he had as many carries/game as he did in 2013 and 2014 (19.5), with that average, he'd have 1,033 in 12 games. Seems pretty effective to me. But he didn't average that many in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 But he didn't average that many in 2015. He doesn't control his carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He doesn't control his carries. But his body breaking down does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 But his body breaking down does. No way to know unless you play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 No way to know unless you play him. Huh? You do realize he didn't get a lot carries in some games, because he was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Agree with you 100% I like what I saw from Gillislee at the end of the season. Prepare him to be the feature back during the suspension with Karlos as the change of pace back. Also what happened to our rap lyrics debate DMX thread? that was fun. I just hope we dont blow a pick on a RB with the holes we need filled on the rest of the field. He looked terrible in the game where he actually had to play the whole game. I think gillislee is the change of pace guy tbh. Karlos makes his own hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Huh? You do realize he didn't get a lot carries in some games, because he was hurt. He played hurt all season. Yet still averaged better than the year before, behind a worse OL. Are you expecting him to hurt himself in pre-season again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 He played hurt all season. Yet still averaged better than the year before, behind a worse OL. Are you expecting him to hurt himself in pre-season again? I expect McCoy to suffer an injury next year and be rendered less effective. Maybe not in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I expect McCoy to suffer an injury next year and be rendered less effective. Maybe not in preseason. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I expect McCoy to suffer an injury next year and be rendered less effective. Maybe not in preseason.So just for the record you are expecting injuries from McCoy and Tyrod next year? Who else are you expecting to get hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) So just for the record you are expecting injuries from McCoy and Tyrod next year? Who else are you expecting to get hurt? I fear for Kyle as well (if he's here). Goodwin. Harvin (if he's here.) Edited February 12, 2016 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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