truth on hold Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Some are speculating Rex is gone. Just a year into this and something like $20 million left on his contract, I'm not seeing it. IMO Pegs is more likely to give Rex even more of what he wants in a critical "make or break" second season...to give him every chance to succeed before pulling the plugs. That said someone is likely to be the fall guy for this season. The biggest fall was on the defensive side, which isolates Dennis Thurman as the target. Rex has already said he relishes the thought of coaching with his brother. Putting it all together, I see Pegs granting Rex his wish and approving the hire. It may not be an immediate release of Thurman, could also be a setup to force him out by naming Rob something like "assistant HC" or "defensive consultant". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Some pare speculating Rex is gone. Just a year into this and something like $20 million left on his contract, I'm not seeing it. If anything Pegs is more likely to give Rex even more of what he wants, in a critical "make or break" second season...to give him every chance to succeed before pulling the plugs. That said someone is likely to be the fall guy for this season. The biggest fall was on the defensive side, which isolates Dennis Thurman as the target. Rex has already said he relishes the thought of coaching with his brother. Putting it all together, I see Pegs granting Rex his wish and approving the hire. It may not be an immediate release of Thurman, could also be a setup to force him out by naming Rob something like "assistant HC" or "defensive consultant". I don't know enough about Rob Ryan to know how I feel about this. Should we be happy at this notion, or "afraid, very afraid"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wasn't saying this in another thread with less dribble about rob ryan good enough? There has to be thread about something that has zero chance of happening? best way to keep the ralph empty? Hire Rob Ryan as " assistant coach". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't know enough about Rob Ryan to know how I feel about this. Should we be happy at this notion, or "afraid, very afraid"? Rob is a one hit wonder. Good for the first year or two. After that, his defenses take a nosedive, and out the door he goes. He might make a good assistant, but that's as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Why would Thurman be the fall guy? He is just a figurehead DC, and everybody knows it. Firing him would be an insult to the collective intelligence of the fan base. I think Crossman gets shown the door, and I see a gutting of the roster coming. Perhaps, someone gets brought in as a "czar" consultant type role. Edit: Sorry, to respond directly to the OP...I could see Rob brought in as a position coach, but surely not as DC. Edited December 23, 2015 by Johnny Hammersticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why would Thurman be the fall guy? He is just a figurehead DC, and everybody knows it. Firing him would be an insult to the collective intelligence of the fan base. I think Crossman gets shown the door, and I see a gutting of the roster coming. Perhaps, someone gets brought in as a "czar" consultant type role. Edit: Sorry, to respond directly to the OP...I could see Rob brought in as a position coach, but surely not as DC. Just playing devil's advocate, what does Thurman bring that Rob Ryan doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't know enough about Rob Ryan to know how I feel about this. Should we be happy at this notion, or "afraid, very afraid"? Do you follow the NFL? He's one of the worst DC in the league.....which is why he is no longer in the league. Be very afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Do you follow the NFL? He's one of the worst DC in the league.....which is why he is no longer in the league. Be very afraidLook what happened 1 year under Thurman. 2014 Buffalo finished the season as a top five defense, ranking fourth overall, and finished in the top five in a host of different defensive categories. Chief among them, sacks (1st - 54), third down percentage (1st - 33.18), yards per play (3rd, 4.86), passing defense (3rd - 205.8), takeaways (3rd - 30) points per game (4th - 18.1) and first downs per game (5th - 18.9). 2015 Thru 14 games... 21st in total yards 30th in sacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVABillsFan Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 other than it can't get worse Why? wait actually it can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Just playing devil's advocate, what does Thurman bring that Rob Ryan doesn't?I don't know, and I doubt anyone does because Rex Ryan clearly calls the shots on defense. Who knows what the defense would look like if Dennis had complete control? Edit: Similarly, how could one properly evaluate Curtis Modkins' performance as OC under Gailey? Edited December 23, 2015 by Johnny Hammersticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 other than it can't get worse Why? wait actually it can. theres more upside than downside. Unbelievable to say it, but since we're bottom half in pretty much every meaningful category thats just the simple fact of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Look what happened 1 year under Thurman. 2014 Buffalo finished the season as a top five defense, ranking fourth overall, and finished in the top five in a host of different defensive categories. Chief among them, sacks (1st - 54), third down percentage (1st - 33.18), yards per play (3rd, 4.86), passing defense (3rd - 205.8), takeaways (3rd - 30) points per game (4th - 18.1) and first downs per game (5th - 18.9). 2015 Thru 14 games... 21st in total yards 30th in sacks What's the point? The current DC blows...you want to add another bad one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I envy you guys who bring the Bailey's for the office coffee and write these inspiring ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Rob supposedly consulted Rex prior to the Eagles game. How'd that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 no, just no. If Rob were to be at OBD next year, I would never have more doubt about the success of this team...to be honest, the issues coming out of the organization sound like fractured locker room and front office. The former is why we lost this year - and that is not Whaley's fault, that is entirely on the team and coaching staff. If Whaley is gone and we don't move Rex to DC or any other position but HC I doubt the direction this team would be headed. Not to put a clearly negative thread worthy post on here, but these are the kind of front office moves that destroy teams and any hope they have at re-building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 We are in the bottom half of every category yet you suggest bringing in Rob Ryan to fix it? I'm confused. I'm saying its a distinct enough possibility to make it worth discussing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Lock of the week. Rob Ryan will be the DC next year. EDIT: forgot to add Edited December 23, 2015 by beerme1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Financially, it doesn't make sense. However, if we are on the Titanic and the inevitable is going to happen. I'd rather fix the problem now, then go down with the ship. Is there light at the end of the tunnel or a cold, embarrassing death? I'm having trouble parsing this. Does it not make sense financially to can Rex? I can see that.... Or are you saying it's Rob as DC that doesn't make sense? Is it Rex that is the Titanic? What is the light at the end of the tunnel and what is the cold, embarrassing death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'm having trouble parsing this. Does it not make sense financially to can Rex? I can see that.... Or are you saying it's Rob as DC that doesn't make sense? Is it Rex that is the Titanic? What is the light at the end of the tunnel and what is the cold, embarrassing death? I read the title as Rex Ryan. Please disregard. Thanks Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 He will be LBs coach. We have two relatively inexperienced guys there right now in April and Rebrovich. Rebrovich is a holdover from last year and this was his 2nd or 3rd year in the NFL. I would imagine he won't be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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