bbb Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 when she was crying after the fight plus she wasn't being disrespectful to her opponent like she normally does I don't expect Ronda to change her tactics except learning better boxing defense. The reason Ronda looked tired was because she was getting rocked, many fighters get tired real quick after their bell is wrung. Also having very short fights didn't help her in going the distance. Ronda didn't really have it locked in and Holm was never in danger of the submission. So, what would be a good defense to the armbar, other than unbillievable's suggestion of a good kick to the face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 why box a boxer ? rousey should have kept taking her to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 why box a boxer ? rousey should have kept taking her to the ground. That's really easy to say but Holm did an excellent job of keeping distance and making Rousey pay for engaging. Greg Jackson had an excellent gameplan and Holm executed it to perfection. This was the very first time that Rousey fought someone with a world class skill set and she got exposed. Rousey has been hit squarely a couple of times in other fights and essentially walked right through it. Holm had enough power to get Rousey's respect, which was evident early, especially when she landed that "John Jones elbow". That rocked Rhonda's world and was the beginning of the bully transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Rhonda needed this break. To be perfectly honest she looked a little out of shape for this fight at the weigh in. She has done a ton for representing female MMA fighting and if she never came back to the sport and went into the entertainment industry should would have no regrets. I always go back to the story I heard on the radio about Rhonda Rousey on my way into work a while back - There was this military ball and a marine who had the huge crush on Rhonda Rousey and wanted to ask her to the ball but never thought she would do it - Somehow the news linked back to Rhonda about this - Rhonda got in contact with him and told him as long as she was not in the middle of training for a fight and if he would get dates for her crew (all female) to the ball as well I thought that was pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 That's really easy to say but Holm did an excellent job of keeping distance and making Rousey pay for engaging. Greg Jackson had an excellent gameplan and Holm executed it to perfection. This was the very first time that Rousey fought someone with a world class skill set and she got exposed. Rousey has been hit squarely a couple of times in other fights and essentially walked right through it. Holm had enough power to get Rousey's respect, which was evident early, especially when she landed that "John Jones elbow". That rocked Rhonda's world and was the beginning of the bully transformation. I thought elbowing was now outlawed, but I saw that one and said I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I thought elbowing was now outlawed, but I saw that one and said I guess not. The only elbow that isn't legal in the UFC is a "12-to-6" The rest are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 The only elbow that isn't legal in the UFC is a "12-to-6" The rest are legal. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 So, what would be a good defense to the armbar, other than unbillievable's suggestion of a good kick to the face? push into your opponent to keep the arm bent preventing the lock. The worst thing you can do is try to pull out as this makes it tighter, unless it's loose. You can also pick em up and slam them on their head but that takes a ton of energy but looks cool The only elbow that isn't legal in the UFC is a "12-to-6" The rest are legal. which is the dumbest thing ever, it's no more damaging than any other elbow. Also it will be a good day when knees are allowed on the ground like the old Pride days, they are also know worse than elbows or any other strike on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Why the !@#$ did all those previous opponents not use that defense or at least not use it effectively. It would drive me nuts that she could keep winning with the same move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Why the !@#$ did all those previous opponents not use that defense or at least not use it effectively. It would drive me nuts that she could keep winning with the same move. Because it wasn't part of the script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 she arrived back in LA today, hiding her face in a pillow as she was escorted to a car at the airport. She must look worse than the kick that broke her face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Why the !@#$ did all those previous opponents not use that defense or at least not use it effectively. It would drive me nuts that she could keep winning with the same move. They have tried.....Holm might just be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 she arrived back in LA today, hiding her face in a pillow as she was escorted to a car at the airport. She must look worse than the kick that broke her face. No private jet? How the mighty have fallen so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Why the !@#$ did all those previous opponents not use that defense or at least not use it effectively. It would drive me nuts that she could keep winning with the same move. because she is really really good at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 because she is really really good at it. One trick ponies get exposed sooner or later. Ronda got destroyed and outclassed by a real MMA fighter with a multitude of skills who wasn't intimidated by Rousey's pre-fight antics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 One trick ponies get exposed sooner or later. Ronda got destroyed and outclassed by a real MMA fighter with a multitude of skills who wasn't intimidated by Rousey's pre-fight antics. Ronda has beaten plenty of real MMA fighters. Styles make fights. Rousey is a world class athlete who will come back stronger and with a better gameplan. Will it be enough? We'll see. She definitely will not underestimate Holm's striking next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Apparently she had plastic surgery too. Broken nose or jaw? http://youtu.be/tnL_zfoF0oI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Ronda has beaten plenty of real MMA fighters. Styles make fights. Rousey is a world class athlete who will come back stronger and with a better gameplan. Will it be enough? We'll see. She definitely will not underestimate Holm's striking next time. I think you're right on the "styles make fights" deal but Rousey has never faced anyone with one strike knockout power. She has been hit square before but the woman striking her didn't have enough to put her down or really even earn her respect. Rousey has significant holes in her standup game (holds hands too wide/low, leads with her chin, no head movement, slow feet and hands, etc) but no one she's fought has been even close to as good as Holm. I'm curious about who Ronda sparred with coming into this fight - if her handlers were worth anything (and I don't think they are), she should have been training with a male kickboxer of similar stature to HH. The hype surrounding her reminds me of when Gracie was dominating. It was a matter of time before someone showed up with a different game to counteract what he did well - the game always evolves. I remember the hype surrounding his fight with Matt Hughes and kinda shaking my head because anyone who was paying attention in MMA knew Royce was in a world of trouble going into that fight. Holm was essentially the perfect foil for Rousey - just enough moxey to stay out of trouble on the ground with good balance, footwork, angle usage, and accuracy to do damage while standing. I didn't know anything about Holm's MMA career but when I saw her at the weigh-in thought she was exactly the right size/height/skillset to make the fight interesting. I didn't know if she had the power to get it done and it turned out via combination that she did. Women's sports are always like this. USC dominated the **** outta college basketball until Tennessee took over the reigns. Then Stanford and Connecticut built powerhouses. The U.S. dominated soccer for awhile and then teams like Japan and Germany caught up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I know this Never underestimate the heart of a champion The rowdy one is not finished.....I think she goes into seclusion a bit.....works on a game plan to counter what happened to her.......and goes right back at Holm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Apparently she had plastic surgery too. Broken nose or jaw? http://youtu.be/tnL_zfoF0oI She had plastic surgery on her lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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