thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Not sure what you're saying here but he's hit on very few players Dareus, KW, Mario, Bradham, Gilmore were all here. Then re-read it, because it's very clear.
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 After giving it some thought keeping Fred would mean getting rid of one of the younger players. We would be looking for another RB next year when he retires. Makes perfect sense business decision. It would mean getting rid of Bryce Brown and his ball-control issues, or a 5th round draft pick with a bit of a troubled past (who could potentially slip onto the practice squad). It is not a cut-and-dried decision.
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 After giving it some thought keeping Fred would mean getting rid of one of the younger players. We would be looking for another RB next year when he retires. Makes perfect sense business decision. Ah - next year - always the favorite year for Bills fans. I thought "win now mode" meant this year.
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Ah - next year - always the favorite year for Bills fans. I thought "win now mode" meant this year. That IS what it means...it doesn't, however, mean that you don't have a long-term plan that you're following.
A Dog Named Kelso Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I stopped at Roth's assertion that Boobie's only advantage is age and cheaper contract. That tells me Roth doesn't really have a clue about Dixon's role on this team. GO BILLS!!! The link was for reference to the quote. The quote was what I agreed with.
Best Player Available Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Ah - next year - always the favorite year for Bills fans. I thought "win now mode" meant this year. Well, not in Buffalo Bills nation. " Win now mode" is more of a general statement and in reality means Once every twenty years or so. The window is closing so expect that magical year sometime within this decade.
17 Josh Allen Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I feel bad for Fred I love everything the Bills have done this off season except cut Fred. You can not replace his heart and his will to win. Guys like Bryce Brown are a dime a dozen you can get them anytime in the rounds 3 thru 6 in next years draft. Or if your scouting is good like the Bills is maybe as a undrafted college free agent. This release of Jackson is a mistake no it won't cost the Bills wins or ruin the team but it takes away that special feeling the team had going on this summer. This team is poised to do something great this year and Fred Jackson is there leader you don't go into battle without your true leader. I know Fred would not have played a lot this year but for me his role would have been an important one of leadership and captain of this football team. For the life of me I can't understand how Rex and Doug don't understand this. Did you here what Fred said after he was cut he would have given anything to retire a Buffalo Bill. That means he would have taken a pay cut, maybe played special teams he would have done what ever it took. Here is a guy who led are team last year in rushing and receiving last year. He is are emotional leader and are community leader and the person who sets the right example of what a athlete should be. How is it the best team in football the last 3 years Seattle can see that and we can't. Yes I agree at this point in time Bryce Brown might be better at running the ball and faster. But Fred is better at Blocking and getting the extra yard and leading our team and our town and city and this region. It would be like the Yankees cutting Derrick Jeter. Yes his Skills have diminished and there might be a better younger player in the minors. SO the Bills should have gone to Fred and said that this is your last year with us make it a good one we want you to do out on top and play in a Bills Playoff game. Then have Fred announce it. I don't know why The Bills management and Terry and Kim Pegula can't understand this. How can the Bills look them selves in the mirror and think this is ok. I for one was ashamed to be a Bills fan yesterday. I am sad for Fred I wish him well. My my 2nd favorite team is Seattle because I love Russell Wilson and I wanted the Bills to Draft him. Having Marshawn helps too, now if Fred signs that will really be cool. Fred will protect Wilson on 3rd downs and spell Lynch and will also provide true leadership to a Superbowl winning team looking to go to a 3rd straight Super Bowl. I hope if the Bills do not win the SuperBowl this year that the Seahawks do so Fred can go out a winner. Fred deserves to be respected. This is something the Bills management failed to do when the released him yesterday. They tried to say the right things but I'm not buying it. Fred's release does not feel right. my eyes tell me that, my gut tells me that, and my heart tells me that. Quote MultiQuote Delete Edit Report
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I feel bad for Fred I love everything the Bills have done this off season except cut Fred. You can not replace his heart and his will to win. Guys like Bryce Brown are a dime a dozen you can get them anytime in the rounds 3 thru 6 in next years draft. Or if your scouting is good like the Bills is maybe as a undrafted college free agent. This release of Jackson is a mistake no it won't cost the Bills wins or ruin the team but it takes away that special feeling the team had going on this summer. This team is poised to do something great this year and Fred Jackson is there leader you don't go into battle without your true leader. I know Fred would not have played a lot this year but for me his role would have been an important one of leadership and captain of this football team. For the life of me I can't understand how Rex and Doug don't understand this. Did you here what Fred said after he was cut he would have given anything to retire a Buffalo Bill. That means he would have taken a pay cut, maybe played special teams he would have done what ever it took. Here is a guy who led are team last year in rushing and receiving last year. He is are emotional leader and are community leader and the person who sets the right example of what a athlete should be. How is it the best team in football the last 3 years Seattle can see that and we can't. Yes I agree at this point in time Bryce Brown might be better at running the ball and faster. But Fred is better at Blocking and getting the extra yard and leading our team and our town and city and this region. It would be like the Yankees cutting Derrick Jeter. Yes his Skills have diminished and there might be a better younger player in the minors. SO the Bills should have gone to Fred and said that this is your last year with us make it a good one we want you to do out on top and play in a Bills Playoff game. Then have Fred announce it. I don't know why The Bills management and Terry and Kim Pegula can't understand this. How can the Bills look them selves in the mirror and think this is ok. I for one was ashamed to be a Bills fan yesterday. I am sad for Fred I wish him well. My my 2nd favorite team is Seattle because I love Russell Wilson and I wanted the Bills to Draft him. Having Marshawn helps too, now if Fred signs that will really be cool. Fred will protect Wilson on 3rd downs and spell Lynch and will also provide true leadership to a Superbowl winning team looking to go to a 3rd straight Super Bowl. I hope if the Bills do not win the SuperBowl this year that the Seahawks do so Fred can go out a winner. Fred deserves to be respected. This is something the Bills management failed to do when the released him yesterday. They tried to say the right things but I'm not buying it. Fred's release does not feel right. my eyes tell me that, my gut tells me that, and my heart tells me that. Quote MultiQuote Delete Edit Report So are you going to post this babble in every thread?
Snorom Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) This is something the Bills management failed to do when the released him yesterday. They tried to say the right things but I'm not buying it. Fred's release does not feel right. my eyes tell me that, my gut tells me that, and my heart tells me that. I hope if the Bills do not win the SuperBowl this year that the Seahawks do so Fred can go out a winner. Fred deserves to be respected. My god.. Are you really serious, your loyalty is to Fred Jackson a aging 34 year RB who has been injured often in recent years and lost of step. get a grip that has to be the most ridiculous retort to this logical release of a player.. I can't stop laughing at how ridiculous and completely irrational this rant is Fred has been more than respected. He has $$$ millions to back that up as well. Its a pro game and this is the reality Edited September 1, 2015 by Snorom
johnwalter Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 not sure if this has been mentioned -- but do you guys think the equipment guys would give out #22 next offseason?
thebandit27 Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 not sure if this has been mentioned -- but do you guys think the equipment guys would give out #22 next offseason? Yes. They've given out numbers of bigger stars than Fred (83 for instance).
Rob's House Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 It's amusing to me how some here scoff at emotional reactions rather than purely rational ones. WTF is remotely rational about grown men cheering for a football team?
boyst Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 not sure if this has been mentioned -- but do you guys think the equipment guys would give out #22 next offseason? I hope Aaron Williams changes his number, actually.
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 It's amusing to me how some here scoff at emotional reactions rather than purely rational ones. WTF is remotely rational about grown men cheering for a football team? i feel like theres a big gap between the "i dont like it, and im depressed to see home go" emotional response, and "OMG I HOPE HE PLAYS FOR THE PATRIOTS AND BEATS US" emotional response
Helpmenow Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 Did you all cry when bruce or Andre was released? Please
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 i feel like theres a big gap between the "i dont like it, and im depressed to see home go" emotional response, and "OMG I HOPE HE PLAYS FOR THE PATRIOTS AND BEATS US" emotional responseI haven't been scouring every thread. But have people really been saying this? I believe strongly that the Patriots would look at an undervalued asset with something to prove and less tread on his tires than most guys his age. But I'm certainly not hoping for that to happen. It's just an example of how this kind of move might come to haunt the bills, that's all.
Gugny Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 It's amusing to me how some here scoff at emotional reactions rather than purely rational ones. WTF is remotely rational about grown men cheering for a football team? How is grown men cheering for a football team irrational? Grown men have been cheering for their favorite competitors for a lot longer than the NFL has been around.
FireChan Posted September 1, 2015 Author Posted September 1, 2015 How is grown men cheering for a football team irrational? Grown men have been cheering for their favorite competitors for a lot longer than the NFL has been around. What is rational about them having "favorites?"
Gugny Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 What is rational about them having "favorites?" How is that irrational? Seriously.
IronyAbounds Posted September 1, 2015 Posted September 1, 2015 I do think the loss of a real leader in the clubhouse could be the real problem. Fred's numbers can be matched or bettered by just about anyone, but you do need quality leader types on the team, and I'm not sure who it will be.
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