GunnerBill Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Harvin. He is not going to be the receiver many expect so for him to play up to his contract he needs to have a major impact returning punts and kicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Harvin. He is not going to be the receiver many expect so for him to play up to his contract he needs to have a major impact returning punts and kickshes never returned punts though. Does that make you nervous? He also hasn't taken any reps there at camp as far as I know. I'm less worried about guys justifying their contracts and more worried about winning - as we have seen all too often a fumbled PR can shift momentum and cost you games. Found this -- pretty interesting http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/article-5/Percy-Harvin-as-Punt-Returner-Well-See/3361add1-ab3a-46a8-a3e1-4aace3009719 From last year -- "Its difficult. Its a lot tougher being a punt returner than a kick returner and it is a lot different," head coach Rex Ryan said. "Does he have the skillset to do it? I think he probably does." "I wouldnt ever say anything Percy couldnt do," said special teams coordinator Thomas McGaughey. "Ive seen him do a lot of things on the football field and being able to make plays is something he can do, so well see." Edited August 26, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 For some reason, I assumed we had all sorts of punt returners - but after taking a gander, it looks pretty thin previous experience wise. NFL PUNT RETURN EXPERIENCE Leodis att-92, yds-1000, TD's-3, Faircatch-49, Long-88 (7seasons [89 games]) Thiggy att-76, yds-800, TD's-2, Faircatch-39, Long-75 (4seasons [41 games]) FredEx att-16, yds-190, TD's-0, Faircatch-10, Long-35 (4seasons [54 games]) COLLEGE PUNT RETURN EXPERIENCE Woods att-37, yds-183, TD's-0, Faircatch-6, Long-31 (3 collegiate seasons) *only one NFL return for 11 yds Sammy att-9, yds-23, TD's-0, Faircatch-3, Long-12 (3 collegiate seasons) A.Willy att-14, yds-86, TD's-0, Faircatch-3, Long-25 (1 collegiate season) Gilmore att-45, yds-206, TD's-0, Faircatch-17, Long-35 (3 collegiate seasons) Robey att-27, yds-208, TD's-0, Faircatch-7, Long-44 (2 collegiate seasons) Lankstr att-26, yds-171, TD's-0, Faircatch-6, Long-36 (1 collegiate season) Was surprised Percy didnt receive any punts in his career, nor Mcoy, Bryce, Karlos, Easley, Goodwin. There was a BR writeup on this back in July - however it doesnt really offer much insight. Still, I no longer have wam fuzzies about PR game like I did before doing this research. Thigpen is our only dynamic punt return guy if the Irish guy is sitting. I guess Woods can take a crack at it since we have all sorts of WR depth???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Goodwin should be on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) For some reason, I assumed we had all sorts of punt returners - but after taking a gander, it looks pretty thin previous experience wise. NFL PUNT RETURN EXPERIENCE Leodis att-92, yds-1000, TD's-3, Faircatch-49, Long-88 (7seasons [89 games]) Thiggy att-76, yds-800, TD's-2, Faircatch-39, Long-75 (4seasons [41 games]) FredEx att-16, yds-190, TD's-0, Faircatch-10, Long-35 (4seasons [54 games]) COLLEGE PUNT RETURN EXPERIENCE Woods att-37, yds-183, TD's-0, Faircatch-6, Long-31 (3 collegiate seasons) *only one NFL return for 11 yds Sammy att-9, yds-23, TD's-0, Faircatch-3, Long-12 (3 collegiate seasons) A.Willy att-14, yds-86, TD's-0, Faircatch-3, Long-25 (1 collegiate season) Gilmore att-45, yds-206, TD's-0, Faircatch-17, Long-35 (3 collegiate seasons) Robey att-27, yds-208, TD's-0, Faircatch-7, Long-44 (2 collegiate seasons) Lankstr att-26, yds-171, TD's-0, Faircatch-6, Long-36 (1 collegiate season) Was surprised Percy didnt receive any punts in his career, nor Mcoy, Bryce, Karlos, Easley, Goodwin. There was a BR writeup on this back in July - however it doesnt really offer much insight. Still, I no longer have wam fuzzies about PR game like I did before doing this research. Thigpen is our only dynamic punt return guy if the Irish guy is sitting. I guess Woods can take a crack at it since we have all sorts of WR depth???? i thought I saw Karlos has returned punts at FSU - no? Edit: I saw it here-- http://www.tomahawknation.com/2015/5/2/8505277/karlos-williams-drafted-by-get-florida-state-running-back Any FSU fans out there who can confirm? Edited August 26, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 maybe we should keep Thigpen. then we only have to carry two running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCD Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 i thought I saw Karlos has returned punts at FSU - no? Looks like kickoffs only. But Its not a bad idea if he can learn. I wouldn't wanna take him down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I forgot about Goodwin. Blazing speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 maybe we should keep Thigpen. then we only have to carry two running backs. I floated the other day rather than the consensus "keep 4 backs" if they feel good about Williams could they keep McCoy, Williams and FredEx with Thigpen as the return specialist / 4th choice emergency back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I forgot about Goodwin. Blazing speed. There is that. But, PRs do take some hard hits, often by several players simultaneously. I don't necessarily have the durability concerns that others do regarding Goodwin as a WR, but PRs have to be quite sturdy. But, an equal concern for me is his ability to reliably catch an end-over-end punt with players bearing down on him. Not sure if that's really in his wheelhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB_55 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Austin Willis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Austin Willisyou think he makes the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 HArvin is a returner first and foremostHe's never returned a punt in the NFL and I don't think in college either but maybe some. None of his bio of any accomplishment included PR. Last mention was as a junior in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 He's never returned a punt in the NFL and I don't think in college either but maybe some. None of his bio of any accomplishment included PR. Last mention was as a junior in high school. i saw an article about him doing some in practice in seattle but thats it for nfl mentions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 i saw an article about him doing some in practice in seattle but thats it for nfl mentionsi linked an article earlier today about him practicing it with jets as well but he never ended up doing it in a game from what I can tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I guess my initial punt-return assessment for Harvin was wrong. Now, I'm turned off from the idea of him in that role. Keep Thigpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I guess my initial punt-return assessment for Harvin was wrong. Now, I'm turned off from the idea of him in that role. Keep Thigpen. If we keep Thigpen, who do you think is most on the bubble: Easley, Goodwin, Hogan, or Thompson? In order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 (edited) Hogan. I hear he's Wes Welker-like. Why, because he's white? Edited August 26, 2015 by QuoteTheRaven83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I guess my initial punt-return assessment for Harvin was wrong. Now, I'm turned off from the idea of him in that role. Keep Thigpen. and cut who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Karlos Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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