The Frankish Reich Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Probably a gradual move from "I want out, but I'm stuck with this contract" (the preseason "just fire me" episode) to "hey, the sale of the team may give me an out" (the triumphant Pegulagasm) to "hey, I've got a better opportunity out there after all" (the collapse of Rex Ryan's Jets, which was competed at the Detroit snow bowl). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 After Russ Brandon hired this loser I a sure the only opinion Terry is now asking Russ is which guys to you like? ok take those guys off the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The moment he inked his contract with the opt out after 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think he planned on leaving about 15 months ago, maybe sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Giving his ability to make a game time decision and the possibility that he will remain unemployed....he punted on 4th and 1 at the 45yd line again Good riddens Dougie! Edited January 7, 2015 by fansince88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 That fight him and Russ got into in the beginning of the year. He yelled "Just go ahead and fire me!" or something along those lines. Has he been planning to leave since draft day, or am I looking too far into it? You're not looking too far into it. Doug "abandon ship with a mere text" Marrone's self-centered theme begin loooonnnng ago. There may not be an "I" in TEAM, but he certainly sees the "ME", "ME, "ME in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoto Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 It was soooooo wrong that EJ didn't play the last game. I believe Marrone knew then he was leaving then. We are better off without Marrone, POS as far as I'm concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) It was right in front of us when he played Orton (who he didn't want) instead of EJ (who he didn't want) because it gave HIM the best chance to win in that last no impact game against NE. Then he could say the Bills were 9-7 and HE beat The Patriots. Smart jerk. ^^^This. At the beginning of the Pats game, I was sure that he would play EJ for a significant portion of the game to see how improved (if at all) EJ was in game situations. As time wore on, I wondered that EJ must be really bad if he isn't even played in this meaningless game. Now that his plan seems apparent, it seems clear that Marrone threw EJ under the bus for his own benefit. How much did he retard this kid's professional development in favor of his own selfish ends? We may never know. Edited January 7, 2015 by DerekJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If he didnt like Buffalo media critisism, wonder how he feels about all the attention hes getting now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 If he didnt like Buffalo media critisism, wonder how he feels about all the attention hes getting now? I REALLY REALLY hope he gets the Jets job, and they get DESTROYED in Buffalo next year, and the players carry Schwartz off the field right in front of Douggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 How many draft positions did we move down with that win? I don't know, why don't you tell me? You seem to be concerned about draft picks. I'm more concerned about wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 ^^^This. At the beginning of the Pats game, I was sure that he would play EJ for a significant portion of the game to see how improved (if at all) EJ was in game situations. As time wore on, I wondered that EJ must be really bad if he isn't even played in this meaningless game. Now that his plan seems apparent, it's seems clear that Marrone threw EJ under the bus for his own benefit. How much did he retard this kid's professional development in favor of his own selfish ends? We may never know. Well said. Have to wonder what would have happened to Montana, Aikman, Brady, etc. if they had to experience the misfortune of playing for a self-centered legend in his own mind? Lucky for them, they were actually coached by brilliant men who put the TEAM first. Doug "abandon ship with a mere text" Marrone strikes me as a vindictive sort (hope EJ didn't dare challenge his inept game plan if one could call it a plan...predictable 3 & outs don't sound like much of a plan, or at least a winning one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 ^^^This. At the beginning of the Pats game, I was sure that he would play EJ for a significant portion of the game to see how improved (if at all) EJ was in game situations. As time wore on, I wondered that EJ must be really bad if he isn't even played in this meaningless game. Now that his plan seems apparent, it's seems clear that Marrone threw EJ under the bus for his own benefit. How much did he retard this kid's professional development in favor of his own selfish ends? We may never know. EJ playing would've changed virtually nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What makes the most sense to me is that he didn't get the control/commitment from the owner that he wanted and when that happened he chose to leave. Basically I think he was stuck in a war with Whaley and the rest of FO and scouting. I believe he thought that he had won that war and when Pegs, to Doug's surprise, refused to limit his own options, he got his nose out of joint and walked. 4 million free dollars made it easier to do. He probably had it in mind to neutralize or do an end around the FO and gain more control as early as last year before the 2014 draft. His former assistant at Cuse (Casullo) says he charts his course well in advance and I believe that. Basically it's Doug's way or the highway and this time that played out with him hitting the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) EJ playing would've changed virtually nothing. I'm not saying that it would have (assuming you mean EJ not being benched). We likely would still be in the same position for this year. However, what we would have is a better gauge on whether or not we have a serviceable, if not competent, QB in EJ. Right now, we have a mystery at number one on the depth chart. Well said. Have to wonder what would have happened to Montana, Aikman, Brady, etc. if they had to experience the misfortune of playing for a self-centered legend in his own mind? Lucky for them, they were actually coached by brilliant men who put the TEAM first. Doug "abandon ship with a mere text" Marrone strikes me as a vindictive sort (hope EJ didn't dare challenge his inept game plan if one could call it a plan...predictable 3 & outs don't sound like much of a plan, or at least a winning one). Exactly. Edited January 7, 2015 by DerekJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm not saying that it would have (assuming you mean EJ not being benched). We likely would still be in the same position for this year. However, what we would have is a better gauge on whether or not we have a serviceable, if not competent, QB in EJ. Right now, we have a mystery at number one on the depth chart. No. We wouldn't. One game, with 1/2 against backups is gonna be a better gauge on a QB? Even if EJ completes 100% of his passes, 4 TD's and a perfect passer rating, we'd still have mysteries. However, even more likely, he'd play "just okay" or badly. Both of which indicate, again, nothing. But if he played poorly, his confidence would've been shot even more than it already is. We saw what happened with Trent when he lost his confidence. No thank you. Spin this into a "Marrone was out for himself" argument. You'll never convince me that this game would be good for anyone if we lost. Or would be good if EJ went out there and sucked. He's not getting cut. He's gonna compete next year. Nothing is changing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) No. We wouldn't. One game, with 1/2 against backups is gonna be a better gauge on a QB? Even if EJ completes 100% of his passes, 4 TD's and a perfect passer rating, we'd still have mysteries. However, even more likely, he'd play "just okay" or badly. Both of which indicate, again, nothing. But if he played poorly, his confidence would've been shot even more than it already is. We saw what happened with Trent when he lost his confidence. No thank you. Spin this into a "Marrone was out for himself" argument. You'll never convince me that this game would be good for anyone if we lost. Or would be good if EJ went out there and sucked. He's not getting cut. He's gonna compete next year. Nothing is changing that. I was referring to the whole season. Edited January 7, 2015 by DerekJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was referring to the whole season. So you think EJ is a better QB than Orton? I have a few pages of ESPN stats that kinda refute that. Also "At the beginning of the Pats game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekJ Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 So you think EJ is a better QB than Orton? I have a few pages of ESPN stats that kinda refute that. Also "At the beginning of the Pats game." Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? You seem to be wavering between two topics. 1. EJ should've never been benched, and he was so Marrone could throw him under the bus. No. Orton was better, and EJ had lost his confidence and the locker room. 2. EJ should've played in the NE game. No, for reasons iterated above. Neither of your assertions make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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