26CornerBlitz Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) 3 Bills get PFF Pro Bowl recognition They weren’t named to their starting Pro Bowl positions, but Pro Football Focus named three Bills players as reserves on their Pro Bowl roster. Nigel Bradham, Corey Graham and Marcell Dareus all earned reserve Pro Bowl spots on the PFF all-star roster. Here was their assessment of the Bills’ trio at their respective positions. Edited December 17, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 3 Bills get PFF Pro Bowl recognition Hmm...I guess I don't get to see all the teams on a regular enough basis, but surprised that Mario wouldn't make it. He is probably having the best year of his career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I wonder why they don't wait until the end of the season for this. Agree re: Mario though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I'm surprised by Corey Graham being included. Preston Brown is having a heck of a rookie season and Mario is making some huge plays when we really need them. I don't get the love for Joe Thomas. Hughes took him to school when we played them and yet he is an automatic every year for the Pro Bowl. Edited December 17, 2014 by Catch it Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 We've been here before .... Mario not showing up as the best Defensive player on the Bills means there's a long way to go yet before PFF's analysis can be taken with anything but a grain of salt. They simply don't have a way to remotely determine how a player that is not directly involved with a tackle or pick or sack can greatly affect the outcome of a play. Mario has both numbers AND play that cannot be quantified that way and still doesnt show up here for PFF? Massively flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Agree with the below tweet from Silva. Ravens desperately miss him with all their corner injuries. @evansilva: #Ravens should've never let Corey Graham get away. Rare FA mistake by Ozzie. Edited December 17, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm surprised by Corey Graham being included. Preston Brown is having a heck of a rookie season and Mario is making some huge plays when we really need them. I don't get the love for Joe Thomas. Hughes took him to school when we played them and yet he is an automatic every year for the Pro Bowl. has had a phenomenal year otherwise and was a big part of how the browns had been winning with almost nothing else on offense other than solid OL. thats what made the hughes by so impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloPride Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 If I had to pick a player from our secondary it would be Aaron Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Kyle Williams????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichVP Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 This is a terrible list. How can Dareus be 2nd team DT or Mario not even mentioned as a DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Hmm...I guess I don't get to see all the teams on a regular enough basis, but surprised that Mario wouldn't make it. He is probably having the best year of his career... I wonder why they don't wait until the end of the season for this. Agree re: Mario though. It looks like they're saying the NFL changed the Pro Bowl ballot to "pass rusher" rather than 4-3/3-4 DE/OLB that they've done in the past. The "Edge" Starters are Wake (26.1), Watt (84.3), Von Miller (48) and Houston (44.2). Mario's 19.2 grade is tied for third with Bennett (19.2), below Wake (26.1), JPP (20.3) for 4-3 DEs and looks to be about 15th overall in all these "edge" categories. Either way, I love Mario and think he's worth every penny. This is a terrible list. How can Dareus be 2nd team DT or Mario not even mentioned as a DE? Kyle is 6th under DT behind Donald, McCoy, Suh, Marcel, and Hankins. Edited December 17, 2014 by TheLynchTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallskiWallski83 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 IDK about you guys but Stephon Gilmoure has really started to make a case for pro bowl consideration with his play the last few weeks. Hes quietly turning into that shutdown guy we drafted him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Every article from PFF makes me respect them less. Mario Williams not being on this list is absurd. Wake has had an up and down and pedestrian season. So tired of Watt. Houston is worthy. Von Miller should not be on this list. I also want to know why Carpenter isn't mentioned. Aaron Williams flies under the radar and that's because who's in front of him. I'm cool with that because this will only add fuel to his fire. IDK about you guys but Stephon Gilmoure has really started to make a case for pro bowl consideration with his play the last few weeks. Hes quietly turning into that shutdown guy we drafted him to be. Gilmore's early struggles hut him out of the gate and kept him playing catch up. Gilmore also benefits from an above average DB unit. The same is true for the Seahawks DB's. They benefit from each other but none of them would be extraordinary anywhere else with average talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It's so nice that we as fans now have the All 22 as a reference but it still goes to show you can have all the film you want but it still takes a special skill and training to be able to properly evaluate what you see on film. PFF is a nice alternate look at things (kinda like Qb rating and QBR), but should not be mistaken for being factually complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 3 Bills get PFF Pro Bowl recognition who cares . go win some games. PB will take care of itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Somebody,anybody, explain the support for Whitner :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Somebody,anybody, explain the support for Whitner :blush: Hes been voting for himself all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 let me understand this, Cameron wake has 9.5 sacks and he is in but Mario has 13 and he's not..... Stopped reading right there, what a bunch of dumbasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 let me understand this, Cameron wake has 9.5 sacks and he is in but Mario has 13 and he's not..... Stopped reading right there, what a bunch of dumbasses Pretty sure QB pressures are heavily factored into their rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm surprised by Corey Graham being included. Preston Brown is having a heck of a rookie season and Mario is making some huge plays when we really need them. I don't get the love for Joe Thomas. Hughes took him to school when we played them and yet he is an automatic every year for the Pro Bowl. They decided that Graham is the only Bills cornerback with a clue; so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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