BuffaloBill Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The Bills are under league policy so I would guess they are prohibited from an outright match. Keep in mind Talley nay not be the only ex team member with needs. While this sounds harsh the Bills are not a charity. They are a business and must run themselves accordingly. With that said, I hope DT gets help from the league. He should and the Bills should help him get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) The Bills are under league policy so I would guess they are prohibited from an outright match. Keep in mind Talley nay not be the only ex team member with needs. While this sounds harsh the Bills are not a charity. They are a business and must run themselves accordingly. With that said, I hope DT gets help from the league. He should and the Bills should help him get it. Wasn't there just a story about a former Buffalo Bill that is now homeless? Granted, he only had a cup of coffee with the team and may have just been a practice player if I recall correctly, but should the Bills help him out as well? or does it only apply to really good former players? Edit--this is the guy I was the thread... http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/169327-just-watched-this-video-homeless-former-bill/ Edited December 4, 2014 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Wasn't there just a story about a former Buffalo Bill that is now homeless? Granted, he only had a cup of coffee with the team and may have just been a practice player if I recall correctly, but should the Bills help him out as well? or does it only apply to really good former players? Donnie Green..OT from '70s http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2006-10-14/news/0610140171_1_find-god-hagerstown-rescue-mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Wasn't there just a story about a former Buffalo Bill that is now homeless? Granted, he only had a cup of coffee with the team and may have just been a practice player if I recall correctly, but should the Bills help him out as well? or does it only apply to really good former players? My point exactly. There are plenty of ex-players who fall on hard times. I wish DT the best but he is in no way alone in his circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think the Bills should do what they want and not be vilified if they opt not to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So, stupid question of the day: If the Bills did pay, would it count against their salary cap? I wondered the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I certainly don't think the Bills should feel obligated to match the funds. In fact doing so would create a dangerous precedent that struggling retired players could come back to their team for more money. I DO think the Bills could still perform a good gesture in other ways, such as possibly finding a role with the organization or promoting the fundraiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I wondered the same thing. Why would it affect the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Why would it affect the cap? So, we will pay you $ 4m for 4 years...wink, wink, nod nod, .after you retire we will pay you $12m as a "charitable " effort. No can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 He wouldn't be an NFL player, he would be receiving a gift not compensation, and wouldn't have a contract. So no, it would not affect the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 He wouldn't be an NFL player, he would be receiving a gift not compensation, and wouldn't have a contract. So no, it would not affect the cap. But whenever anybody retired, they would not be a NFL player. Opportunity for abuse is huge They could give him a job, and pay him $150k I would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 They could give him a job, and pay him $150k I would expect. There are already complaints from fans about personnel who work for Bills (What do they do to earn their job?) and taxpayers who complain about about subsidies to Billionaires so I do not think this is a good idea. Any job should be one which the person could get in fair competition but the Bills could provide legal aid and advice as long as it was not against their best interests; charity funds already designated by Bills and the Ralph Wilson Foundation are possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 But whenever anybody retired, they would not be a NFL player. Opportunity for abuse is huge They could give him a job, and pay him $150k I would expect. Still has nothing to do with the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 If members of the Bills organization decide to donate on their own, good for them. The Bills organization, OTOH should not match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Absolutely. But they can do it quietly. Just give Talley an appearance fee to lead the charge before the Packers game of you know $100,000 and you don't have to tell anybody about the appearance fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 No. Look he got paid well to play, that is the only obligation this team has to him. It was up to him to take care of his money. Now if they need to do some paperwork to adjust his pension so be it. Beyond that, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So, we will pay you $ 4m for 4 years...wink, wink, nod nod, .after you retire we will pay you $12m as a "charitable " effort. No can do No, teams hire former players all the time. There have been cases where teams take an aging vet and offer him a cushy front office job to get him off the cap. There is really nothing that you can do to regulate it. At the same time the unions are never going to fight it because another job is opening up for someone else when this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy in 4C Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 He's on disability so I would think going back to work would void that. It typically does. Plus, what does he have to offer? He can't remember basic things. It would be a token job, not an earned one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 On a side note I have no problem with them offering him a token job. I think that both Kelly & Thurman are on the payroll in token jobs now. Let him do some appearances and entertain the high rollers. Every team has guys that do that. I do have an issue with them just paying him because there are lots of other guys in his situation. It's a bad, bad precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Wow, you guys are Cheap with Terry Pegula's money No, They would only be matching money for a fund raiser man House, you got to stop editing your posts then telling people they're on the wrong side!! Edited December 4, 2014 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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