aristocrat Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 sammy is starting to roll. Be curious to see how he does against the chiefs secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I'm sorry but Benjamin isn't in Sammy's league. He's big and physical but get ZERO separation. They throw it to him evey play too. He's a nice player but they are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I'm sorry but Benjamin isn't in Sammy's league. He's big and physical but get ZERO separation. They throw it to him evey play too. He's a nice player but they are not the same. i was just going to comment on lack of separation. He seems to not have great technique. Just dropped a TD that was right in his hands too. He's raw but clearly has upside. The difference in "polish" between he and Sammy is noticeable. Edited October 31, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 i was just going to comment on lack of separation. He seems to not have great technique. Just dropped a TD that was right in his hands too. He's raw but clearly has upside. The difference in "polish" between he and Sammy is noticeable. The stats may be close but the players aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 i was just going to comment on lack of separation. He seems to not have great technique. Just dropped a TD that was right in his hands too. He's raw but clearly has upside. The difference in "polish" between he and Sammy is noticeable. Benjamin's upside is Vincent Jackson. Sammy's is Larry Fitzgerald or higher. I think all 32 teams would take Sammy over Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The stats may be close but the players aren't. Agreed, well put. A healthy Sammy with a decent QB will separate himself from DB's and Mr. Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Agreed, well put. A healthy Sammy with a decent QB will separate himself from DB's and Mr. Benjamin. think about it this way - it was one month ago today that Orton was named the starter. He has only been practicing with Sammy for a month. Orton might not be an elite QB, but he is accurate and can hit a WR in stride. He can make all the throws. And Sammy will make him even better. I'm excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 think about it this way - it was one month ago today that Orton was named the starter. He has only been practicing with Sammy for a month. Orton might not be an elite QB, but he is accurate and can hit a WR in stride. He can make all the throws. And Sammy will make him even better. I'm excited. Oh yeah, it's very exciting. Sammy now has a couple weeks to get 100%, too. He was catching then protecting for a while. Soon he will catch and ATTACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBUFFCUSEFAN Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 According to the NFLN panel of schmucks, Benjamin is superior to Watkins with everyone chasing him for OROY...Wonder if the same sentiments are echoed after this award? Michael Irvin just called Benjamin his rookie of the YEAR. Lolol. What a clown. I wonder how many lines of coke he did prior to that statement. I'm sorry but Benjamin isn't in Sammy's league. He's big and physical but get ZERO separation. They throw it to him evey play too. He's a nice player but they are not the same. Benjamin's upside is Vincent Jackson. Sammy's is Larry Fitzgerald or higher. I think all 32 teams would take Sammy over Benjamin. KBen is having a very nice season and his large catch radius is a big help to Cam. Sammy is great but so is Benjamin, pretty sad to see so many of you mocking KB to make Sammy seem better, quick hint he doesn't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) KBen is having a very nice season and his large catch radius is a big help to Cam. Sammy is great but so is Benjamin, pretty sad to see so many of you mocking KB to make Sammy seem better, quick hint he doesn't need it. KBen is a good player, don't get me wrong. I liked him a lot coming out of the draft. I didn't think he would be there at #41 so I was a fan of a trade back (really anything rather than Ebron's waste of a pick) KBen is not in Sammy's league. The truth will come on by the end of the year. A healthy Sammy Watkins with a semi-capable QB is Offensive ROY this year hands down. Edited October 31, 2014 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Keenan Lewis shuts down Kelvin Benjamin limiting Benjamin to a career low two catches for 18 yards. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/31/keenan-lewis-shuts-down-kelvin-benjamin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Keenan Lewis shuts down Kelvin Benjamin limiting Benjamin to a career low two catches for 18 yards. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/31/keenan-lewis-shuts-down-kelvin-benjamin/ and I started him in fantasy. Smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 and I started him in fantasy. Smh. I'm starting to wonder if it isn't Cam Newton that shuts down Kelvin Benjamin, and himself, which is why I didn't start Cam again this week. The only thing that shut down Sammy against the Pats was Orton/gameplan. It certainly wasn't Revis. I don't want to look too far ahead, but, the last game of the season, after so many games for Sammy/Kyle working together? We'll see about Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think the thing with Benjamin is that a relatively high percentage of his receptions will come from winning contested balls against smaller defenders. Now, I'm not saying that's a bad thins; it's not. I do think that it's resultant from not having the same ability as Sammy to get open--Benjamin shouldn't be knocked for that (I don't think I've seen anyone do so), as there may not be anyone in the NFL that can get open within the first two steps of a pass route like Sammy can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think this is a telling stat when comparing the 2, seeing as their total yards almost identical. Yards after catch: Sammy Watkins - 212 yards Kelvin Benjamin - 79 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 KBen is having a very nice season and his large catch radius is a big help to Cam. Sammy is great but so is Benjamin, pretty sad to see so many of you mocking KB to make Sammy seem better, quick hint he doesn't need it. I was hardly mocking Benjamin by comparing him to Vincent Jackson. Vincent Jackson has had a great career...just short of elite. Like Jackson, Benjamin doesn't tend to get very open or separate from CBs, but he has the rare ability to dominate even when covered. That said, I'd rather have a guy with the freakish ability to get open in any situation. Too bad Chris Hogan had the nickname 7/11 taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think this is a telling stat when comparing the 2, seeing as their total yards almost identical. Yards after catch: Sammy Watkins - 212 yards Kelvin Benjamin - 79 yards wow, good stat. Is it too soon for me to bump the Cam Newton is a bust thread from 2 years ago? Cam Newton looked like a 3rd string QB yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I think this is a telling stat when comparing the 2, seeing as their total yards almost identical. Yards after catch: Sammy Watkins - 212 yards Kelvin Benjamin - 79 yards #Boom! All you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBillsWillRiseAgain Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Sammy > Benjamin. If Orton had been playing since day one their stats wouldn't be as close as they are right now. By the end of the season Sammy will have much better numbers than Benjamin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 KBen is having a very nice season and his large catch radius is a big help to Cam. Sammy is great but so is Benjamin, pretty sad to see so many of you mocking KB to make Sammy seem better, quick hint he doesn't need it. There have been a lot of posts basically indicating that they are interchangeable. They are not. KB is a nice player (Alshon Jeffrey), Watkins is a star. It is in no way a knock on Benjamin it is a salute to Sammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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