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Really?

 

Jason peters for best LT ever?

 

 

No way

Maybe boselli was a better pure pass protector, but he couldnt get 20 yards downfield on screens and clear out all the linebackers and secondary like peters does routinely. Guy is amazing

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QBs for sure. Maybe Watt, but way too early to tell.

 

Agree that Gates is in the conversation, he stacks up nicely with history IMO. Transformed the position as we know it but the only problem he's a contemporary with the best ever, Tony Gonzalez.

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peters is the one that stands out to me too.... and its not just our history making me say it. guy would be in my hall of very good, despite his all time great gifts. other than hester at KR all the rest of those guys are exceptional leaders with all time great work ethics and very smart.

 

i dont know how many of the guys deserve to be #1 but the rest could make a case to atleast be discussed if their careers continue as is.

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QBS: Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Luck, Wilson

RBS: McCoy

WRS: Calvin, D Thomas, Green

TE: Gates, Graham.

DT: Watt

DE: V Miller, D Ware,

LBS: Willis

CBS: Sherman, Revis

Safeties: None....were really in a dead era as far as elite safeties go.

Special Teams: Hester

Head Coach: Belichick, Couglin

 

 

I know its early, but is M Dareus entering the DT conversation as well?

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Not saying I agree with all, but in the discussion I got .....

 

QB: Brady, Manning

TE: Gronk, Gates

WR: Megatron

LT: Peters

DL: Watt

SS: Polamolu

DB: Revis

NT: Wilfork

K: Vinatieri

KR: Hester

Don't disagree with any of those in terms of where they are perceived and what their respective legacies look to be except Peters. Also, what's the deal with your avatar? Is that Reese Witherspoon or something? And if so, why?

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Maybe boselli was a better pure pass protector, but he couldnt get 20 yards downfield on screens and clear out all the linebackers and secondary like peters does routinely. Guy is amazing

No.

 

Walter Jones or Anthony Munoz perhaps but Peters?

 

I also don't think Revis will last long enough to be considered the best ever.

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Polamalu aint no Ronnie Lott..not even close.

 

 

IMO its the other way around. Troy is far more versatile, and is even effective living up at OLB. He covers more of the field and hes probably more opportunistic on turnovers. Physically can do things Lott could only dream of...like last night leaping over both lines in an attempt to stuff a short yardage play. When he was still broadcasting Madden said troy was best defensive player in football, and I think he was right.

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Manning, Brady and Antonio Gates at this stage. The other guys are either not near enough the end of their careers to truly judge the whole body of work or are very good - and possible HoF candidates.... but best of all time in their position? Not for me. Except maybe Vinateri - how many SB teams has he been on? 3? 4?

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QBS: Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Luck, Wilson

 

Wilson the greatest QB ever? Yeah, no. Brees neither. Luck certainly has the trajectory, though. And the other three I agree with.

 

Gates belongs in the TE conversation, and Thomas may soon as well. For those guys, they have Gonzalez's longevity to content with.

 

I thought Megatron could at least vie for the "greatest after Rice" distinction (for which there's currently a highly debatable scrum), but this was a key year to distance himself from that pack and the injury has pretty much prevented that from being the case.

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Don't think Polamalu even cracks the top 10, Ed Reed was better imho. I'd say Brady, Manning, Watt, Gates (Tony G. is hard to beat), Graham, Sherman, Rodgers and Megatron are at least top 5 for their positions. I don't think Gronk will have a long enough of a career to be considered anything better then great.

 

+1. Peters, Wilfork & Vinateri are all major reaches. You can quibble w/ someone like Revis but I can at least see a reasonable argument if he plays for a while longer.

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Peters isn't even in the team picture with Anthony Munoz. Watt maybe but lets see longevity. The league is watered down so most of the players today aren't as versatile and are more specialists. Watt is a throwback to the play anywhere era. Brady, Manning and Rogers is in the team photo. His gamefilm is almost a how to video

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