BillsFan-4-Ever Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 to clarify. is this watch for when he gets fired in NJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 If they fire him. Count me all in on hoping he ends up here. Outmanned jets team and the guy keeps belichick on his heels almost every game no matter what. You can see how personal it is and how much disdain he has losing to the pats in his scowl walking across the field at the end of that game. He looked like he would rather be dead. I am sure he would also take beating the jets very personally if they fired him. The loudmouth attention craving personality seems to have grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Rex proved he is a good HC last night against NE. Now I can't call him Wrecks Ryan Edited October 17, 2014 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Sorry, but the guy completely neglects the offensive side of the ball year in and year out. They are on their 3rd OC, who is doing as bad as the others. He hasn't selected an offensive player in the 1st round since Sanchez. The offense as a whole is always a mess. He subscribes to the same offensive philosophy as Marrone/Hackeet, run first, blah, blah, blah. I don't by that he has no control of the offense. The offensive philosophy/drafting hasn't changed with the GM switch. He's a brilliant DC, but as a head coach, his record speaks for itself (43-44) with 2 winning records in 6 years. No thanks. Edited October 17, 2014 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Anyone catch bellichik wiping boogar from his nose, checkingn it out in his hand, then wiping it on his pull over ? LOL nice camera work Edited October 17, 2014 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I have a foot fetish for Rex Ryan and I'm beginning to think that my fantasy just might become reality. The Jets are 1-5 and Ryan is widely believed to be done at season's end unless the Jets miraculously turn things around, which is extremely unlikely given the state of their roster. Rex Ryan can flat out coach. His players love him, he can out-scheme anyone in the league from a defensive standpoint, knows how to beat Brady, and is just the sort of brash, confident, ultra-competitive and professional/competent sideline manager that we've been pining for since ... forever. Rex would also be anointed king in Buffalo - he looks like the kind of guy you'd find at the end of the bar on Hertel Street at either 3 a.m. or even 3 p.m. He'd instantly make the Bills relevant, exciting, confident, and competitive. He'd make defense the strength, and with the personnel we already have in place, he'd make our defense dominant. IMO, Rex Ryan is one of the best coaches in the league and we can't pass up the opportunity to get him here this offseason. For those who would hold his offensive track record against him, it has been well-documented that Rex has had little say over the personnel on the offensive side of the ball, including the QB (he doesn't even have control over which QB plays). While his choice of offensive coordinators over the years does concern me, I'd hope we could pair him with someone more competent than Nate Hackett - in fact, anyone would be an upgrade over Hacket. So in sum, my fantasy is that the Pegulas hire a consultant who evaluates the roster and organization and realizes that Marrone and Hackett are not at the level of competence that it takes to be elite; Marrone is sent packing, and the Bills pounce on the opportunity to bring in one of the best coaches in the league, one who would just happen to have an axe to grind with our division rivals who just canned him. Please let this happen. agree...and you know they're going to kick our asses when we go in there, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 agree...and you know they're going to kick our asses when we go in there, right? Not so sure. They really need a run game to be effective, which plays to our strengths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Sorry, but the guy completely neglects the offensive side of the ball year in and year out. They are on their 3rd OC, who is doing as bad as the others. He hasn't selected an offensive player in the 1st round since Sanchez. The offense as a whole is always a mess. He subscribes to the same offensive philosophy as Marrone/Hackeet, run first, blah, blah, blah. I don't by that he has no control of the offense. The offensive philosophy/drafting hasn't changed with the GM switch. He's a brilliant DC, but as a head coach, his record speaks for itself (43-44) with 2 winning records in 6 years. No thanks. Nobody is saying we should hire Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Nobody is saying we should hire Idzik. Exactly. Look at the scrubs they're playing on offense. I'm damn sure it wasn't Rex's idea to field 11 strike-era replacement players on the offensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Nobody is saying we should hire Idzik. They were doing the same drafting and had the same offensive scheme under Tannenbaum. Like I said I'm not buying that he has no say on what the offense does Exactly. Look at the scrubs they're playing on offense. I'm damn sure it wasn't Rex's idea to field 11 strike-era replacement players on the offensive side of the ball. Like I said, the same thing was going on when Tannenbaum was there. They weren't drafting offensive talent. They were going after veteran players on offense. Holmes, Tomlinson, etc. etc. It's the same exact formula that is going on now that was going on then. EDIT: And it was Tannenbaum that helped draft Revis, Harris, Nick Mangold, and D'Brickshaw Ferguson. How is it the drafting went to crap when Ryan arrived? Ryan hasn't drafted 4 players of that calibre since he's been there. Edited October 17, 2014 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 They were doing the same drafting and had the same offensive scheme under Tannenbaum. Like I said I'm not buying that he has no say on what the offense does Like I said, the same thing was going on when Tannenbaum was there. They weren't drafting offensive talent. They were going after veteran players on offense. Holmes, Tomlinson, etc. etc. It's the same exact formula that is going on now that was going on then. I still don't understand what you're saying. Tannenbaum was a horrible GM. Idzik isn't much better. None of that is Rex Ryan's fault. He isn't the one designing the "formula." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Ryan hasn't drafted 4 players of that calibre since he's been there. I think you're missing the point. Ryan isn't the GM. You can't put poor draft selections on him. All he can do is coach what's given to him. Personally, I think he's done a heck of a job, much better than anybody the Bills have had since Levy left. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I love Rex. He's a great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) I still don't understand what you're saying. Tannenbaum was a horrible GM. Idzik isn't much better. None of that is Rex Ryan's fault. He isn't the one designing the "formula." You mean Tannenbaum who help draft Revis, Harris, Nick Mangold, and D'Brickshaw Ferguson? Yea horrible talent evaluator. Guess he just lucked into those. My point is, the offensive philosophy and drafting hasn't changed with the GM change. What's not to get? The one thing that has remained constant is Ryan is the HC. Through 2 GM's nothing has changed on the offensive OR the defensive side of the ball. Yet, previous to Ryan arriving Tannenbaum helped select Mangold and Ferguson in the 1st round. I think you're missing the point. Ryan isn't the GM. You can't put poor draft selections on him. All he can do is coach what's given to him. Personally, I think he's done a heck of a job, much better than anybody the Bills have had since Levy left. I'd take him in a heartbeat. You absolutely can put some of that on Ryan. You think Ryan has absolutely zero say in the philosophy of the drafting or the philosophy of the offense? I mean lets say for a second that that's even true, which I don't believe it is, what does that say about the confidence level they have in Ryan? What, he can only coach one half of the team? And he's the one selecting the offensive coaching staff, so he obviously doesn't know how to find talent in his offensive coaching staff. EDIT: Fans here love to put the CJ Spiller pick on Gailey and the Aaron Maybin pick on Jauron. But oh no, we can't possibly lay blame on the drafting done on a coach we think is good. Edited October 17, 2014 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You mean Tannenbaum who help draft Revis, Harris, Nick Mangold, and D'Brickshaw Ferguson? Yea horrible talent evaluator. Guess he just lucked into those. My point is, the offensive philosophy and drafting hasn't changed with the GM change. What's not to get? The one thing that has remained constant is Ryan is the HC. Through 2 GM's nothing has changed on the offensive OR the defensive side of the ball. Yet, previous to Ryan arriving Tannenbaum helped select Mangold and Ferguson in the 1st round. You absolutely can put some of that on Ryan. You think Ryan has absolutely zero say in the philosophy of the drafting or the philosophy of the offense? I mean lets say for a second that that's even true, which I don't believe it is, what does that say about the confidence level they have in Ryan? What, he can only coach one half of the team? And he's the one selecting the offensive coaching staff, so he obviously doesn't know how to find talent in his offensive coaching staff. EDIT: Fans here love to put the CJ Spiller pick on Gailey and the Aaron Maybin pick on Jauron. But oh no, we can't possibly lay blame on the drafting done on a coach we think is good. Many fans are idiots, including Bills fans & Jets fans. They would be the same people who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to hire Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Many fans are idiots, including Bills fans & Jets fans. They would be the same people who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to hire Rex Ryan. I never said he wasn't a good coach, the discussion is about being a Head Coach, but what a wonderful response. I see you have to resort to name calling, how very intelligent of you. Edited October 17, 2014 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 As what? Head coach? He has a great defensive mind, but the guy doesn't know how to pick the offensive system nor pick a QB. I would absolutely love him as our defensive coordinator. Head coach? Eh. Would I take him over Marrone? No question I would. Hey I got called an idiot for suggesting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Meh. I don't think he's a very good HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'd be down with Rex, or Rob for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Hes essentially his dad. Great defensive coordinator. OK head coach. He's an improvement over Marrone. WITHOUT a doubt. Marrone AND Hackett can take a long walk off a short pier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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