Deranged Rhino Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 Muggle-heads. I love it!! Quit acting like a !@#$ing muggle-head. As a muggle-head, I approve of this term. In the feds defense, they were forced to act by the vicious Quidditch riots of 1923... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The NY Times series on cannabis continues The Great Colorado Weed Experiment http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/opinion/sunday/high-time-the-great-colorado-weed-experiment.html?op-nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Behold, the next Civil Right is declared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Behold, the next Civil Right is declared. I doubt it, as both parties are statists. The only difference is what part of your body they want the state to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 The final installment in the NY Times series http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/opinion/high-time-rules-for-the-marijuana-market.html?op-nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Our long national nightmare is over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.caintv.co...legalization-ha 1. The majority of DUI drug arrests involve marijuana and 25 to 40 percent were marijuana alone. 2. In 2012, 10.47 percent of Colorado youth ages 12 to 17 were considered current marijuana users compared to 7.55 percent nationally. Colorado ranked fourth in the nation, and was 39 percent higher than the national average. 3. Drug-related student suspensions/expulsions increased 32 percent from school years 2008-09 through 2012-13, the vast majority were for marijuana violations. 4. In 2012, 26.81 percent of college age students were considered current marijuana users compared to 18.89 percent nationally, which ranks Colorado third in the nation and 42 percent above the national average. 5. In 2013, 48.4 percent of Denver adult arrestees tested positive for marijuana, which is a 16 percent increase from 2008. 6. From 2011 through 2013 there was a 57 percent increase in marijuana-related emergency room visits. 7. Hospitalizations related to marijuana has increased 82 percent since 2008. Legal marijuana means more people smoking marijuana (especially kids), which means more problems in the realms of crime, public health, driving hazards, school discipline. One of the most idiotic arguments in favor of pot legalization is that it "takes the crime out of it." It does no such thing. It creates so much undisciplined behavior on the part of people who are not the sharpest tools in the drawer to begin with, the result is far more overall criminal behavior, even if possession of pot itself is not something to be prosecuted. About that: If legalization is not supposed to lead to a rise in teens smoking pot, then how do you explain drug-related suspensions and expulsions up 32 percent in four years? Because it obviously does lead to more teens doing it. There is no way it could be otherwise. Any time you remove the sanction from a behavior, you get more of that behavior. More adults able to acquire pot legally means more people for teens to get it from. Come on. Don't be a moron. Use your brain for once, if you still have any of it left. And stop with the idiocy about how "the war on drugs failed" because it didn't result in fewer people doing drugs. Name one other criminal law that's judged in that way. Rapists are still at it. Anti-rape laws have failed! Are you really that stupid? The purpose of a criminal law is to impose a sanction on those who commit the crime, and to protect society from those same people. If more people are using drugs, the law hasn't failed. Those people have failed. And now we're seeing some of the social costs of changing the law to accommodate their failures. [security, I moved your post to this thread as I would like to keep the 'Cannabis and Disease' thread focused on health issues.] The logic from that article is even worse than the terribly flawed study that it is based upon. The author decries legal marijuana and then proceeds to cite statistics from a period prior to legalization. Here is an article talking about the effects since legalization in Colorado http://wallstcheatsh...ppears-so.html/ Is Legal Marijuana Making the Streets Safer? It Appears So From the article Well, a year and a half after legalization was passed in two states, and now nearly nine months after Colorado initiated legal sales of cannabis to the general public, it appears that legalization has indeed made the streets safer. In fact, marijuana use among teenagers has actually dropped in Colorado, much to the surprise of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I didn't read the article, but I'm not buying that use dropped among teens. When they decriminalized pot when I was in high school, the number of kids who smoked pot soared. (It was a Catholic school, so that was part of it. My freshman year, only my best friend and I really smoked it much. Sophomore year, 90% of the kids did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 20 something NFL player has no idea that you can get a pot DUI?!?!? https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/steelers--le-veon-bell-didn-t-know-he-could-get-dui--for-being-high-160013403.html So, I imagine that kids do not know, care or think much of it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 For what it's worth: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/08/22/judge-husband-will-stand-trial-in-shooting-death-of-wife/ Richard allegedly told the officer that he was “the most powerful person in the church of Latter Day Saints” and that he just killed his wife. Some of the evidence found inside the home included an empty prescription bottle of hydrocodone, a partially-consumed 100mg marijuana edible candy and an marijuana cigarette that had not been smoked. The Kirk’s 7-year-old son told police that his dad came into his room afterwards and told him “he had to kill dad so he and mom could be together with God.” The children also told police they had never seen their dad behave the way he did that night. The detective also testified that the only drug found in Richard’s system was THC. The levels were low but officers stressed that the effects of marijuana can vary from person to person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) That is a sad story. It certainly sounds like the guy snapped. I think trying to tie the murder to the ingestion of THC is a very big stretch, however. Prohibitionists are grasping at any straw these days. For argument's sake, let's say the THC caused this man to kill his wife. If that is the case, why has no one else that we know of been driven to kill? Tens, if not hundreds of thousands, or maybe even millions of people have ingested THC infused products. Might it be that this guy had some mental problems and that day he lost it? Edited August 23, 2014 by Bob in Mich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 For what it's worth: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/08/22/judge-husband-will-stand-trial-in-shooting-death-of-wife/ Richard allegedly told the officer that he was “the most powerful person in the church of Latter Day Saints” and that he just killed his wife. Some of the evidence found inside the home included an empty prescription bottle of hydrocodone, a partially-consumed 100mg marijuana edible candy and an marijuana cigarette that had not been smoked. The Kirk’s 7-year-old son told police that his dad came into his room afterwards and told him “he had to kill dad so he and mom could be together with God.” The children also told police they had never seen their dad behave the way he did that night. The detective also testified that the only drug found in Richard’s system was THC. The levels were low but officers stressed that the effects of marijuana can vary from person to person. How much of a factor was the THC in the killing if you had to guess ? 10% or 13% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 How much of a factor was the THC in the killing if you had to guess ? 10% or 13% Did you notice I said "for what it's worth"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Fair enough, it ain't worth much. Seemed a little trollish and beneath you at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That is a sad story. It certainly sounds like the guy snapped. I think trying to tie the murder to the ingestion of THC is a very big stretch, however. Prohibitionists are grasping at any straw these days. For argument's sake, let's say the THC caused this man to kill his wife. If that is the case, why has no one else that we know of been driven to kill? Tens, if not hundreds of thousands, or maybe even millions of people have ingested THC infused products. Might it be that this guy had some mental problems and that day he lost it? Maybe he was using THC products to cure his mental problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Maybe he was using THC products to cure his mental problems. It cures everything. In fact, he had a problem with his wife. That is now cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 A new study suggests that a few strong whiffs of black pepper can calm anxiety brought on by marijuana How Black Pepper relieves Cannabis Anxiety By Owen Smith — 17 Jul, 2014 http://cannabisdiges...nnabis-anxiety/ From the article While working at the Victoria Cannabis Buyers Club I was able to teach some of the members about Black Pepper. While benefiting from the medicinal effects of THC, these patients suffered from bouts with anxiety while medicating. Most patients who have tried this simply took a few sniffs of the black pepper to receive an almost immediate effect. Others have reported that after chewing on pepper corns they felt relief within an hour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 For what it's worth: http://denver.cbsloc...-death-of-wife/ Richard allegedly told the officer that he was “the most powerful person in the church of Latter Day Saints” and that he just killed his wife. Some of the evidence found inside the home included an empty prescription bottle of hydrocodone, a partially-consumed 100mg marijuana edible candy and an marijuana cigarette that had not been smoked. The Kirk’s 7-year-old son told police that his dad came into his room afterwards and told him “he had to kill dad so he and mom could be together with God.” The children also told police they had never seen their dad behave the way he did that night. The detective also testified that the only drug found in Richard’s system was THC. The levels were low but officers stressed that the effects of marijuana can vary from person to person. I've been taking hydrocodone for my back and I think it's safe to say that probably played a bigger factor than the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I've been taking hydrocodone for my back and I think it's safe to say that probably played a bigger factor than the pot. I just received a prescription for it after dental surgery 2 days ago. I haven't had the need to take any though. What are the side effects for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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