klos63 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Anytime I hear his name I remember his conversation with Rene Robert. Robert: "What's your background, Larry?" Quinn: "I'm a land developer." Robert: "Do you think I could do your job?" Quinn: "No, I don't think you could." Robert: "Then what makes you believe you're a hockey man?" This means nothing, everyone who posts here thinks they can run a team, a draft, free agency, coach in games..... Edited May 4, 2014 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Good post. These anti Golisano posts are far out of touch with reality. Here was a guy who's purchase saved the Sabres. Now the Bills are looking for a savior and Golisano isn't the guy? I think given other choices, most of us feel Pegula would have deeper pockets, like he is showing as owner of the Sabres. Jacobs has a more proven track record of success with the Bruins, than Golisano had with the Sabres, having won 1 Cup and losing one final. Having said all that, Golisano saved the Sabres and deserves credit for that, he wasn't, by appearances ever a big fan or visible fan and that gave off a vibe that he didn't care or wasn't "into it" --- in the end, I would welcome him as owner ahead of the others being mentioned, except Pegula and Jacobs. My preference: 1- Jacobs 2- Pegula 3- Golisano 4- Trump 5- Milstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born to Run Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I believe Brandon is looking to partner with a local ownership group. Golisano and Quinn to me appear serious. Say what you will about the on field product but to the Wilson family Russ is viewed as a caretaker of the franchise for Ralph as he aged and wasn't up to the day to day operations. He will be a part of any local ownership group and Mary Wilson will see to it. In my opinion the Toronto groups are out because while the Bills were looking for revenue and regionalization all Toronto wanted was the chance to move the team up there when Ralph passed. This notion the team is going to the highest bidder and that bid can't be generated locally is all speculation.It seems that there are plenty of bidders here that could compete with each other just to keep the team here. Quinn can use his creativity by designing a new shape for the league goalposts since the NHL passed on that while he was with the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 This means nothing, everyone who posts here thinks they can run a team, a draft, free agency, coach in games..... Of course, you prove Rene Robert's point, and it means far from nothing. Quinn was as qualified to run a hockey team as the shlubs here--- but he didn't see it that way and felt the need to interfere. That's why the post lockout era Sabres fell apart and Golisano lost interest in owning a team that couldn't sustain popular appeal or postseason success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Quinn did a great job designing the slug uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Quinn did a great job designing the slug uniform. Laugh all you want but the "slug" was the top selling jersey for a while. We should just accept that any future Bills owner will be less than perfect in some way. Our descriptions of the ideal owner are starting to read like dating profiles on Match.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) I think given other choices, most of us feel Pegula would have deeper pockets, like he is showing as owner of the Sabres. Jacobs has a more proven track record of success with the Bruins, than Golisano had with the Sabres, having won 1 Cup and losing one final. Having said all that, Golisano saved the Sabres and deserves credit for that, he wasn't, by appearances ever a big fan or visible fan and that gave off a vibe that he didn't care or wasn't "into it" --- in the end, I would welcome him as owner ahead of the others being mentioned, except Pegula and Jacobs. My preference: 1- Jacobs 2- Pegula 3- Golisano 4- Trump 5- Milstein I don't have a ton of knowledge on this topic but given what I have read from other posters, it seems Jacobs and Pegula would also have the lineage to be able to pass ownership down within the family, so that we aren't in the same boat in 7-10 years when the team really CAN move. Edited May 4, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Laugh all you want but the "slug" was the top selling jersey for a while. We should just accept that any future Bills owner will be less than perfect in some way. Our descriptions of the ideal owner are starting to read like dating profiles on Match.com. This much is true. I am more concerned with Quinn's history of meddling and intractability than with Golisano as a principle owner. It's unsettling for him to rear his ugly head for a 3rd time and so soon after we'd rid of him in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Age might be a factor when considering estate tax in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Flutie Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I'm reading the same news as everyone else today. Not being a hockey fan, I know nothing of these guys. It seems to me most people like Golisano, but not Quinn. Just curious to hear why that is. Why did Golisano sell the team? I got the impression that most Sabres fans were excited for Pegula, which led me to believe Golisano was no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) Golisano bought them good. He didn't build them why were they good when he bought them? Regier must have built a good team and Ruff coached them well. Who hired Regier? Quinn. Edited May 4, 2014 by klos63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) I'm reading the same news as everyone else today. Not being a hockey fan, I know nothing of these guys. It seems to me most people like Golisano, but not Quinn. Just curious to hear why that is. Why did Golisano sell the team? I got the impression that most Sabres fans were excited for Pegula, which led me to believe Golisano was no good. Goilisano wasn't the worst owner but he didn't spend money freely either. It's hard to judge TG because of his "mini-me" Larry Quinn. Who knows what decisions were made by TG or LQ or both? The biggest fiasco of the TG/LQ Sabres era was losing both Chris Drury and Danny Briere, two players that were the heat and soul of a Sabres team that went to the Cup semifinals two years in a row. Allegedly Drury was all set to sign a deal around $5M/yr when (allegedly) Quinn held off hoping to drive Drury's price down some more. I'm less clear on what went down with Briere. Ironically Quinn & Regier missed out on a golden opportunity right after when Edmonton tried to sign Vanek away as an RFA. If the Sabres let him walk away they would have gotten the Oilers next four 1st round picks. I don't know if Vanek would have helped them but the next 4 drafts the Oilers picked at or near first. But after the shock of losing Briere and Drury, the Sabres weren't about to risk a full on riot letting Vanek go too. In hindsight it would have been the right move. PTR Edited May 4, 2014 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) I am not a big hockey fan but I am a Flyers fan and I can say they were not going to be outbid for Briere that year. Looking back it was probably the right move for Sabres not to resign him as the Flyers like most teams that sign free agents to these big deals grew to regret it as he was injured a lot and eventually cut him. Edited May 4, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 The issue was we could have extended danny and chris the year before at 5 mil per and set the team up for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 oh, god, every time you think Larry Quinn is gone...he comes back. I'd almost rather they moved than had Quinn involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Goilisano wasn't the worst owner but he didn't spend money freely either. It's hard to judge TG because of his "mini-me" Larry Quinn. Who knows what decisions were made by TG or LQ or both? The biggest fiasco of the TG/LQ Sabres era was losing both Chris Drury and Danny Briere, two players that were the heat and soul of a Sabres team that went to the Cup semifinals two years in a row. Allegedly Drury was all set to sign a deal around $5M/yr when (allegedly) Quinn held off hoping to drive Drury's price down some more. I'm less clear on what went down with Briere. Ironically Quinn & Regier missed out on a golden opportunity right after when Edmonton tried to sign Vanek away as an RFA. If the Sabres let him walk away they would have gotten the Oilers next four 1st round picks. I don't know if Vanek would have helped them but the next 4 drafts the Oilers picked at or near first. But after the shock of losing Briere and Drury, the Sabres weren't about to risk a full on riot letting Vanek go too. In hindsight it would have been the right move. PTR Actually, it wasn't 4 consecutive first round picks, i would have been every other year and to assume they all would have been number 1 overall would have been quite a stretch. At the time, it wasn't a bad idea to sign vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I think Tom just wants something he can flip for a profit like he did with the Sabres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 G & Q get a hold of this team you will never ever see a winner. On top of Drury and Briere, Brian Campbell the following year left. With those 3 players you could cup contend every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 I'm for it, but only if Golisano is a minority owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 (edited) G & Q get a hold of this team you will never ever see a winner. On top of Drury and Briere, Brian Campbell the following year left. With those 3 players you could cup contend every year They didn't in 06 with a depleted defense. If they didn't win then, they were never going to win. Trust me, I was there. BTW, Campbell lost us that game with that delay of game penalty Edited May 4, 2014 by Corp000085 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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