meazza Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Just look at countries with the best health system and go from there. Again, I live in a country with socialized medicine and yet I pay for health care because wait times are just way too long. Is Trump just trolling America by calling Australia's Universal Health Care system even better than ours or is he really that ignorant? He's really that ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Again, I live in a country with socialized medicine and yet I pay for health care because wait times are just way too long. He's really that ignorant. Supplement or full price for sooner care ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Is Trump just trollingis a ducks butt watertight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 A single payer system is the only way to go. I have not known anyone in Canada that has been denied timely care for illness, that's not true that they die waiting or run to the US. All relatives and friends and co-workers were imediately treated for their knee/hip replacements and surgery requirements and treatments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Supplement or full price for sooner care ? Supplement. Just to give you an idea, a large percentage of my income taxes (which are the highest in North America) go to the health care budget and yet that's not enough to get treatment. And just an FYI, sooner could be a year sooner which is a lot if you're suffering from a medical condition. Also, it's incredibly difficult to get a family doctor. A single payer system is the only way to go. I have not known anyone in Canada that has been denied timely care for illness, that's not true that they die waiting or run to the US. All relatives and friends and co-workers were imediately treated for their knee/hip replacements and surgery requirements and treatments. What province? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Supplement. Just to give you an idea, a large percentage of my income taxes (which are the highest in North America) go to the health care budget and yet that's not enough to get treatment. And just an FYI, sooner could be a year sooner which is a lot if you're suffering from a medical condition. Also, it's incredibly difficult to get a family doctor. Thanks for that info, I still admire Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Supplement. Just to give you an idea, a large percentage of my income taxes (which are the highest in North America) go to the health care budget and yet that's not enough to get treatment. And just an FYI, sooner could be a year sooner which is a lot if you're suffering from a medical condition. Also, it's incredibly difficult to get a family doctor. Is this the reddogz' version of supply & demand? As more people get covered, there's a mad rush of providers into the healthcare field so service and wait times improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Grew up in southern Ontario and live and work in Toronto. I do not know ANYONE who had to wait "too long" for catastrophic emergency treatment, nor anyone who had to wait unduly for a knee or hip replacement. Family doctor appointments are always granted the next day at worst. The US government will more and more be seen as responsible for providing health care for all, and single payer will be the only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 What they need to do is insure themselves before they become sick. That's how insurance works. Or at least before they're diagnosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Taxes up here... $26,000 on your first $100,000 of taxable income. About half to the province, last I looked, and 80 percent of that half to health care. Plus work benefits for other coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 In the US some of us have huge deductibles , out of pocket , copay for medical care , so I would be ok with the Canada system jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 A safety net for catastrophic health care for all should be the goal. The family tree has been fortunate health-wise, so we've grossly overpaid in Canada, but that's part of the system if one day someone has an emergency. As well doctors are paid a very competitive wage up here, but not mega-millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Canadians like their health care http://www.gallup.com/poll/8056/healthcare-system-ratings-us-great-britain-canada.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinreaper Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 In the US some of us have huge deductibles , out of pocket , copay for medical care , so I would be ok with the Canada system jmo Unless you just had a catastrophic plan, did you have those huge deductibles before the ACA was put in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 This is an interesting article about where our health care dollars go and how wasteful a government/private system is. So much of the cost is making insurance companies pay the hospitals. Armies of bureaucrats on both sides fighting for the money https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/opinion/sunday/our-costly-addiction-to-health-care-jobs.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 Not facing a $200,000 bill for your child's illness, or other emergency is the price Canadians pay for what may be a higher annual tax base. We decided health care universally was a top priority for our citizens. We also put almost nothing into defense, for which we are grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 A safety net for catastrophic health care for all should be the goal. The family tree has been fortunate health-wise, so we've grossly overpaid in Canada, but that's part of the system if one day someone has an emergency. As well doctors are paid a very competitive wage up here, but not mega-millions. I've long been an advocate for a national pool for catastrophic care. Not facing a $200,000 bill for your child's illness, or other emergency is the price Canadians pay for what may be a higher annual tax base. We decided health care universally was a top priority for our citizens. We also put almost nothing into defense, for which we are grateful. Now imagine if your country also provided military defense for the entire western world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 The cost of non generic prescription drugs and epi pen yearly, Katy bar the door, good old doughnut hole, not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 The Dutch and South African systems are best, with an individual account, but that's not possible in the US now, and Canada is single payer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 We also put almost nothing into defense, for which we are grateful. Must be nice living next door to a rich uncle who takes care of the other sovereign needs for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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