keepthefaith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ALF said: The World: Life Expectancy (2020) - Top 100+ Est. 54. United States of America 79.5 2020 (Est.) http://www.geoba.se/population.php?pc=world&type=015&year=2020&page=1 I thought the US had the best health care system and by far the most expensive The myth that doctors keep a population alive longer. Our medical system treats sick people, it doesn't keep people healthy. Edited August 25, 2019 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, /dev/null said: We also have the worst diet and several cities that are almost war zones But don't let those silly details get in the way of your Narrative How can the poor have a healthy diet ? Why can't law enforcement bring order to problem cities ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, /dev/null said: We also have the worst diet and several cities that are almost war zones But don't let those silly details get in the way of your Narrative Have read (but haven't confirmed) that the US also treats babies that are born but will die very shortly after birth as live births but that many other countries treat them as still births (I.e., they don't count against life expectancy statistics). If that is accurate, adjusting the treatment of those births would move the US up in the rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, ALF said: How can the poor have a healthy diet ? Why can't law enforcement bring order to problem cities ? Not just 'the poor' have an unhealthy diet. Fast food, junk food, and processed foods cause alot of America's health problems across social strata. And 'the poor' in the United States are better fed than most of the rest of the world Law Enforcement cannot bring 'order' to the problem cities for several reasons. Chief among these is the failed "War on Drugs". Prohibition leads to black markets. Black markets lead to turf wars. Turf wars lead to violence Another is a culture treating LEO as 'the enemy' rather than respecting the service they provide to the general public 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, Taro T said: Have read (but haven't confirmed) that the US also treats babies that are born but will die very shortly after birth as live births but that many other countries treat them as still births (I.e., they don't count against life expectancy statistics). If that is accurate, adjusting the treatment of those births would move the US up in the rankings. ...the woefully inept, unqualified cardboard cutout propped up by ex-Clintonites from the "criminal syndicate" was charged with carrying on the bloviating pant suit's vision for universal health care....SMH...... 2 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Not just 'the poor' have an unhealthy diet. Fast food, junk food, and processed foods cause alot of America's health problems across social strata. And 'the poor' in the United States are better fed than most of the rest of the world Law Enforcement cannot bring 'order' to the problem cities for several reasons. Chief among these is the failed "War on Drugs". Prohibition leads to black markets. Black markets lead to turf wars. Turf wars lead to violence Another is a culture treating LEO as 'the enemy' rather than respecting the service they provide to the general public ...NYS spends $62.4 BILLION on welfare......money well spent my azz......how many come to this state because of Governor Guido's ineptitude?...think my 20 grand in NYS income taxes is well spent?.....retiring to Florida shortly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I still think that the massive income inequality is a major problem. Just trying to have a honest and civil exchange to major problems that need solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ALF said: I still think that the massive income inequality is a major problem. Just trying to have a honest and civil exchange to major problems that need solutions. Massive income inequality between whom? The median HOUSEHOLD income is around 50k per year. What do you think the median household iPhone number is? Or smart watch? How much do those things cost? Imagine if instead of getting everyone in the family the new iPhone, they got McDonald’s less and bought some fresh produce. Maybe thats “unreasonable”. I find it hard to feel sympathy for the poor who just “can’t” eat healthy but are 300 lbs at 25. These folks aren’t starving, clearly they are affording something. Edited August 25, 2019 by BringBackOrton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...NYS spends $62.4 BILLION on welfare......money well spent my azz......how many come to this state because of Governor Guido's ineptitude?...think my 20 grand in NYS income taxes is well spent?.....retiring to Florida shortly..... That's the problem , how to solve it is the big question. I don't blame you for retiring in Florida , a state with no income tax. I retired here on a small enough pension to pay very small state income tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, ALF said: I still think that the massive income inequality is a major problem. Just trying to have a honest and civil exchange to major problems that need solutions. Why do you believe income inequality is a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Why do you believe income inequality is a problem? Wealth inequality in the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States It could be the problem or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, ALF said: Wealth inequality in the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States It could be the problem or not I can solve the puzzle. It’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, ALF said: Wealth inequality in the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States It could be the problem or not Wealth or income inequality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, GG said: Wealth or income inequality? I would think total wealth . Someone earning minimum wage does not have the higher education of a engineer. The gap gets much wider after that example. High income invested wisely becomes higher wealth to me. Edited August 25, 2019 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Why do you believe income inequality is a problem? because the tv and internet told him it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, /dev/null said: because the tv and internet told him it is I'm old , it's what I have seen in a lifetime way before internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Our poor in this country would be considered rich in many other countries. Income inequality is a crockofshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, ALF said: Wealth inequality in the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States It could be the problem or not Are you talking about wealth or income? Also, I’d like to know why you think the disparity matters or is problematic. Edited August 25, 2019 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Are you talking about wealth or income? Also, I’d like to know why you think the disparity matters or is problematic. One problem is the working poor who earn too much to qualify for medicaid , who cannot afford medical and dental coverage if their job does not provide it. Barely living paycheck to paycheck with no savings is a real problem for too many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, ALF said: One problem is the working poor who earn too much to qualify for medicaid , who cannot afford medical and dental coverage if their job does not provide it. Barely living paycheck to paycheck with no savings is a real problem for too many. Wealth or income? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, ALF said: One problem is the working poor who earn too much to qualify for medicaid , who cannot afford medical and dental coverage if their job does not provide it. Barely living paycheck to paycheck with no savings is a real problem for too many. So is the answer to give them more handouts, or give them opportunities to find a better-paying jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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