ET1062 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Jeremy White has be preaching doing a QB sneak all season, the percentage of getting a first down in a short yardage situation is 80%. The Bills had a First and Goal at the One, four QB sneaks in a row and we take a 14 point lead and an undrafted rookie QB in his first NFL start doesn't throw a pick six. Marrone is being bullheaded by not running this play as he doesn't want to take advice from a radio talk show host in my opinion. Not doing a QB sneak has now cost us two games this season. I hope our new analytics guru has a talk with Doug on Monday and tells him this should be our standard play in short yardage situations. Edited November 4, 2013 by ET1062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Agreed. 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Jeremy White has be preaching doing a QB sneak all season, the percentage of getting a first down in a short yardage situation is 80%. The Bills had a First and Goal at the One, four QB sneaks in a row and we take a 14 point lead and an undrafted rookie QB in his first NFL start doesn't throw a pick six. Marrone is being bullheaded by not running this play as he doesn't want to take advice from a radio talk show host in my opinion. Not doing a QB has now cost us two games this season. I hope our new analytics guru has a talk with Doug on Monday and tells him should be our standard play in short yardage situations. Is that the percentage on the goal line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted November 4, 2013 Author Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Is that the percentage on the goal line? Not sure, but it worked for Detroit last week and Miami on Thursday night for TD's. I honestly can't recall it not working mainly because it is almost never called Edited November 4, 2013 by ET1062 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The Bills absolutely should have tried this at least once, from the spread formation, on that 1st and G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 My father was yelling at the TV 40+ years ago "Quarterback sneak!" When they did it - it worked! Look at how effective Brady has been with it for all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 No doubt, if they had run a QB sneak and it failed, this board would be lit up with people complaining about it. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 We had nothing to lose with Tuel. If he was hurt, would we really be in worse shape with Flynn? I was at a sports bar yelling the same thing. That play killed us as the Chiefs have no big comebacks. That is not how they play. We could have sat on that lead and just kicked field goals in any other possession. Although the announcers today would be saying "what's wrong with KC" vs. what the Bills are creating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 My father was yelling at the TV 40+ years ago "Quarterback sneak!" When they did it - it worked! Look at how effective Brady has been with it for all this time. 4th and 1 with Brady is automatic first down Just go 4 wide spread the field out, reduce the amount of huge guys all piled up on the line of scrimmage and QB sneak it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 No doubt, if they had run a QB sneak and it failed, this board would be lit up with people complaining about it. Am I wrong? No, because most here are smart enough to recognize that it's absolutely the right call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Bart Starr was turing over inhis grave yesterday and he isn't even dead yet. Remember Starr/Kramer sneak for TC against Dallas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobilz Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 even my son runs the sneak in high school .scores every time at the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 plus the sneak works well with a silent count and a simple tap on the center to snap the ball. this way all the rest of the players are acting like its a normal play with cadence and the QB just falls to one side of center based upon D line gaps. Works best in spread since one of the gaps over center is usually wider than the other. If your worried about a QB injury on a sneak I think QBs are more likely injured getting sacked or scrambling in space verus a fall over the center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Spread the defense out and run the QB sneak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Marrone said something interesting a few weeks ago "the center and the qb have to be comfortable with it" Now we have three qb's and never use it , It could mean Wood is not comfortable either with the play or he just hasnt had enough time with the qb to get it right . At this point there needs to be some kind of explanation to why they never use it at this point it would be a tendency breaker and an alomost automatic yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The sneak and the screen play are two that we should be working on more in practice. High percentage plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Marrone said something interesting a few weeks ago "the center and the qb have to be comfortable with it" Now we have three qb's and never use it , It could mean Wood is not comfortable either with the play or he just hasnt had enough time with the qb to get it right . At this point there needs to be some kind of explanation to why they never use it at this point it would be a tendency breaker and an alomost automatic yard Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The Most Unstoppable Play in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 No, because most here are smart enough to recognize that it's absolutely the right call. Thank you. And the Bills are not the only team to outsmart themselves on the goal line yesterday. Did anyone see the Chargers' sequence on 1st a goal from the 1 at the end of regulation yesterday? Never has a team and a coaching staff more deserved to lose a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Even if a sneak gets stuffed.... you lose no yardage. Some of those running plays at the goal line are losing a yard a pop. I absolutely HATE the bring in 3 TE's and try to blow them off the ball. Guess what, KC brings in 3 equally large guys to blow it up. So now, not only does the RB need to beat the Dline, they can also get stuffed by running into the back of their own guys. Edited November 4, 2013 by 5 Wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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