YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I just don't understand if it simply is a soreness issue he is dealing with why Lewis cannot take a painkilling injection and go play. Plenty of other QBs over the years have done the same thing, including Kelly(per his book). Its not an issue where there is danger of causing more damage, simply a pain issue...this is the whole point of painkilling injections... Is there something I am missing here? Yes. He can't throw, and he is a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Yes. He can't throw, and he is a QB. Why bring Fitz into this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Why bring Fitz into this? Well played sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Flynn has had 3 NFL starts and only 1 good one. He has only been in Buffalo 3 weeks and hadn't taken a snap/rep until this week. I would rather start Tuel who has had much time with this team and offense. The kid definitely has a ton more time in the system than Flynn & should by now know the system . It just amazes me how the Bills fans turn so quickly on a player although by now it shouldn't . I could see if after this week with a full week to prepare & being in the offense as long as he has if Tuel stinks it up this time then i would get it if all that has been said was after giving him a fair shake, but the Cleveland game the kid had NO reps what so ever . Thats like giving a soldier a gun with no bullets & telling him to hold down a fort until reinforcements come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) Also, show some trust in the coaches. [/sarc on] This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted on this board. Imagine the folly of trusting a decision of this magnitude to a bunch of coaches that have done nothing but watch, analyze, and evaluate these players since OTAs. [/sarc off] There are posters who use rhetorical phrases such as, "end of story," "case closed," and "(blah, blah, blah) pure and simple." Those who betray such a one-sided perspective and hold their own opinions in such high regard rarely bend to reason, and I generally ignore much of what they have to say. I've been a member of this site for a couple years, now. I rarely post, but I read it almost daily. The fans who take a reasoned approach, temper their judgements with facts (rather than emotion), and who are seeking opinions as much as they are presenting them, are the one's from whom I have learned much about football. Leave this board immediately. You have no place here. Edited November 3, 2013 by Thurmal34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 For the people who are bashing the Tuel......keep this in mind.....not only is he a rookie....not only did he go undrafted.....this will be his first start.....and this week he didn't even get all of the 1st string snaps...he had to split them with Flynn...and he is going against the team with the best record in the league......Rookie season people.....I know he sucked in Clevland, but he looked really good during pre season. Let's give him a chance. I bet many people (including myself) were worried as heck about Thad's first start. I am sure most of us did not predict that he would be as good as he was. Who ever thought we all would be hoping that Thad freakin Lewis would be under center for the start of a game. The point, Very few believed in Thad and he came threw. Let's give Tuel support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I used to love coming the the Bills wing of TSW, but it seems like the majority of the fans that post here, do so, primarily to trash players...many who are just starting out, or really don't have enough of a track record to come to any conclusive judgment of their long-term potential. I realize, this is, in large part, an understandable frustration with the constant state of mediocrity our beloved team seems to be stuck in. But, I really hate the way people trash some of these guys...they trash the Super Bowl era guys (when people do this, I just assume they are too young to have realized what they were watching), the crap on the rookies and second year guys...I understand why, sometimes, but I am really tired of it. I am not trying to embarrass anyone, or question their "fan-hood" (I can't believe I just wrote that), but I just can't stand that stuff, especially when it is so constant. The Bills just drafted a first round QB who played 4.5 games with mixed results (some good some bad), and it has already become common, with a vocal minority (or is it a majority?) that he is a bust... 3 weeks ago, Thad Lewis was the toast of the town...as anyone with a brain cell would understand, a guy like Lewis is, eventually, going to show some warts...but, no, he is already trash...this board had the biggest hard-on for Jeff Tuel in August, and now, after 1.25 quarters of rough QB play, he too is thrown on the scrap heap... I know fans are supposed to root, but do you root for the team and its' players to succeed, or fail miserably (cuz that is what it seems like most of the time here) just so you can say "I always said that guy sucked"? He certainly couldn't look worse than he did, with no reps with the first string for about 5 weeks. You ever have a day at your job where it gets' away from you? Does that mean you suck at your job? Or, did yo just have a bad day? Not predicting fantastic things for Tuel, if, indeed, he does start against the Chiefs, but l suspect he will be a mixed bag of some good things, and some bad things. We just have to hope the good is good enough to overcome the bad things, and we can get a win. It isn't completely unfathomable is it? Anyone remember when John Fourcade beat a geat Bills team, all those years ago, at Rich Stadium? Well said, Buftex. I appreciate your perspective. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 We are talking football here, not cosmological tribulation. "Hellacious" in football terms is when a rookie QB (with no reps that week because of the stupidity that is Thursday night football) finds himself backed up to the Cleveland Dawg Pound. "Hellacious" in football terms is when any QB (whether rookie, veteran, All-Pro, or Hall of Fame) finds himself facing a defense which, after 8 undefeated weeks, is... 1st in the NFL in turnover margin, 1st in the NFL in scoring defense, 1st in the NFL in sacks, and 1st in the NFL in third down stops. When my comments are intended to encompass the existential, I will let you know. No need. I think your leap into existentialism will be readily apparent. GO BILLS!!! Not really... Thad is hurt which makes Tuel and Flynn the only active, healthy QBs. They have to split the reps, and Thad was not practicing. Tuel was getting the majority of the reps, per Marrone, as he was most likely to start if Thad is not able to play. But Flynn obviously needs to take some reps... he would need to go in if Tuel got hurt or pulled. Not sure why Flynn getting reps is an indictment on Tuel... it is a reality of the situation the Bills are in this week. I stand corrected. Makes perfect sense for them to give Flynn the work just in case. GO BILLS!!! It might be Tuel reading this very thread that prevents him from playing well tomorrow. It is possible, though, that he could start off with the jitters and then settle in. Manuel started slow in his first few starts. The defense is going to have to be HUGE tomorrow to give us a chance. That's the case no matter who starts at QB, but as someone else mentioned, a much smaller margin for error with Tuel. Perhaps marginless. I'd like to see him settle in after a rough start if he should happen to get off to a rough start. That would be a very good sign that the moment isn't too big anymore. But his problems snowballed in Cleveland so I'm not convinced he's the "settle in" kind of type. Not yet, anyway. I'd like nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. I don't think I'm alone in that concern, either. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hopefully EJ is back next week and tomorrow will be the last start by a backup QB on the Bills for 10 years at least. If you want EJ Manuel to have a 10 year career the last place you want him to return from a knee injury is Heinz Field. Heinz Field has been consistently rated by players as one of the worst grass surfaces in the league, along with the Oakland Coliseum (likely due to the baseball diamond; it is the only one left) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's amazing we're at this point debating the merits of starting a rookie UDFA (Tuel) versus a street free agent (Flynn) to replace a guy on his 4th team in 4 years (Lewis). Indeed! Injuries happen and the Bills have been very unlucky. In light of that, I don't understand why they decided to sign Kevin Kolb who hasn't made it through a complete season in 6 NFL years. That's a risk a more forward thinking organization wouldn't take, especially considering they might start a rookie QB. I think the Bills were trying too hard to be objective, looking at performance and stats in camp. Hopefully Marrone has learnt a valuable lesson from this, which being that you can't go by stats alone, you have to look at a guy's history in the league: TJax = tougher than nails Kolb = made of glass, concussion history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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